Bill,As I read your post, the thought occurred to me..why not publish or sell this information you have collected, and then, as I read on, I realised why you can't get others "in the know" to divulge their acquired information...money. roger----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge Collectible Automobile did an article on the 1957-59 Dodges, complete with production figures. The article was written by Mr. Jeffrey I. Godshall, whose "daytime" job is interior stylist at DaimlerChrysler. Thus he has access to records in various departments and knows quite a few persons who either work at DC now or in the past. Mr. Godshall has written excellent articles for CA on various Chrysler makes over the years and has included production figures and photos of styling department models.as the car designs progress.Getting back to the original quesiton, the lack of numbers for 1956 to 1970 Dodges is not due to the fact they are not available, it is due to the factno one has bothered to dig them out. Dodge production figures from 1930 through 1955 first appeared in "The Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley, published by Motorbooks International in 1977. The Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto figures were supplied by the late Don Butler, author of "The Plymouth and DeSoto Story", 1978. At the time Mr. Heasley's book was written, 1955 was as far as Mr. Butler had gotten. In Mr. Heasley's book, the 1939 model D13 and 1951-52 model D39 are forCanadian-built Plymouth-sized Dodges (1939 DeLuxe Six and 1951-52 Kingsway).The book did not print the production numbers for the 1939 D11D (Luxury Liner DeLuxe) which has resulted in more than one author to claim various 1939 models, such as the long-wheelbase models, were not built. Thenumbers for the 1949 model D30 are missing the long-wheelbase sedan. Again,instead of approaching Chrysler Historical and asking for the 1949production nunbers, writers have just regurgitated Mr. Heasley's numbers and declared that no LWB 1949 Dodges were built. That many can remember seeingthem on the road over the years is apparently ignored. When I moced toVancouver in 1994 there was a 1949 Dodge D30 Custom (as the Coronet was soldin Canada) LWB sedan in a yard east of Edmonton.Consumer's Guide published "Cars of the 50's" and "Cars of the 60's" in the late 1970's. Both were less than 100 pages and included production figuresat the back of the book. These figures were by series / model and not by body style. Again, these figures are quoted time and again by writers, including Consumer's Guide themselves, and no one has asked Chrysler Historical to do a bit of digging. The information is there, just that no one has taken the time to do retrieve them. By the way, old car clubs for Plymouth, DeSoto and the W.P.C. club have published some excellent histories along with production figures. I have, thus, been able to acquire the production figures for 1939 Dodge, allmodels, plus 1941 Dodge, 1954 Dodge, 1960 Valiant and the 1962-65 880/Custom 880. Awhile ago I acquired some photcopies of Chrysler production reports for 1965 to 1972 for cars built in the U.S. and Canada for sale in the U.S.I do not have figures for cars built for Canada for those years, sadly. C.A. also published articles on the 1960-61 and 1962-64 Dodges. So I havefigures for those years. I actually have those figures broken by 6 and V8, Canada and the U.S. Plus after doing some digging I have been able to put together figures for 1956. "The Dodge Story" had figures for the Coronets, convertibles and some wagons and I have been able to find numbers for othermodels in various articles. By putting them all togather, I now have a complete listing. Unlike General Motors, Ford and Studebaker, finding Mopar body style production information is like finding hen's teeth. The sad part about it is that there are people outside Chrysler Historial who have complete information dating from the 1930's into the 1970's. But these people are not willing to share. I've asked. Bill Vancouver, BC----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 DodgeHey Bill - What is the source of your info ? The Standard Catalog of American Cars, published by Old Cars Weekly, says there is no breakout by model. Ron----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > He is partially right - there were 2,151 Coronet SIX 2-door hardtopsbiilt> in 1959 > > For 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtops - > Coronet 6 - 2,151 > Coronet V8 - 19,283 > Royal - 3,483 > Custom Royal - 4,693 > Total - 39,610 > > A further 1,585 Custom Royal 2-door hardtops were built in Canada > > Bill > Vancouver, BC > >> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Ashbaugh> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:35 PM > Subject: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > >> This eBay seller says that there were only 2151 Coronet 2dr HTs built > in> 1959. That is insane. Anyone know the true numbers? Also, does that > engine look like a 326? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Dodge-Coronet-2-Door-Hardtop-one-of-only-2-151_W0QQitemZ280009155128> > > Larry (Akron) >************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go tohttp://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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