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You could prime the line and
then shut if off when you hear the sound change. I leave mine running
until the engine starts and then "I" turn the pump off. The pump can be
heard clicking (pulsating) when on.
When the pump is turned off fuel
will flow freely through it. You won't even know it is
there.
The size is just under 4" long
and about 3" tall.
I mount mine on the bottom side
of the trunk floor just forward of the gas tank when the floor raises.
Unless you crawl under the car and look up in that location you'd never know it
was there. I've also seen them mounted on the frame rail where the fuel
line from the tank to the pump is located. That if a bit more
visible.
Hope this
helps,
John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:39
AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] electric fuel
pump
I am all for good ideas, ... so let me ask a
question or two ...
One wires this in line and activates it momentarily to prime
pressure against the carbs for a quick start, and then shuts it off when ready
to crank the engine over ?
I presume this means it allows a free by-pass flow when turned off
?
How big are they, and where are they typically mounted ? ...
or more to the point, can they easily be concealed ?
Thanks,
Burger
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On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:07 AM, John wrote:
All,
I carry and have sold for
years (MADE IN THE USA) auxiliary fuel pumps that will assist when priming
and starting your engine. BEWARE that many of these pumps you see for
low prices are not USA built but usually from China. Do I need to say
anymore there??
These are placed (in-line)
and should ONLY be used for the prime and starting procedure. Rich
Barber states that he had to hook his 6V pump to run all of the time for it
to function properly. This is a very bad idea. Should your
mechanical pump fail and the diaphragm puncture you can force the raw fuel
directly into the crankcase. Don't think I need to explain what the
results could be. We carry the Facet (MADE IN USA) brand and they do
not offer a 6V version so I have no idea what Mr. Barber is using but it
doesn't sound like a "by-pass" pump.
Many Hot Rodders use an
electrical high pressure pump on some applications that don't use a
mechanical pump. I own a 1960 Volkswagen sedan with a 2275cc
approximately 200 HP motor running (2) 48 IDA Weber Carbs and it uses a
Holley High Pressure pump with a controlled fuel pressure regulator so that
"I" can control delivery pressure. There is a "kill" button for fuel
delivery very accessible should I ever need it. Modern cars have an
automatic cut off should the car be involved in an accident disaster won't
occur from a fire being continual fed by a run away
pump.
Some years ago I saw this
very thing happen in front of my eyes as a guy with a T-Bucket was hit and
the pump kept feeding the motor as a fire started. Several of us had
fire extinguishers but it didn't help and the car burned to the ground in
front of us because the owner hadn't taken the time to install a "kill"
switch. Typical story, he made a left in front of a car and was
hit. First time he had the Rod out and of course he had not activated
his insurance. Don't let this happen to
you.
There are two versions of
the Facet brand we carry. 1.5-4 PSI & 4-7 PSI and I've always used
the latter but either one will do the job to fill the system up for the
initial start. Cost and appearance is the same on either pump ($36.69
+ shipping) and they are a rather straight forward
installation. On my personal cars they are attached to an
"independent" switch that "I" control as I don't want the pump running all
of the time. Should you have a mechanical pump failure and can
determine that it is not the diaphragm you can use the auxiliary pump to
operate the car but I would only do this on a temporary
basis.
I hope that this will be of
assistance to some of you and should you need one and choose Royze as your
supplier you can phone to the 800 # below. We accept Paypal,
Mastercard, Visa and American Express and oh yes, we still accept cash
although it doesn't seem to be worth much these days. Thejohn@xxxxxxxxx is my work e-mail and I only use it
weekdays. You can also send to me at french_fryguy@xxxxxxxxx which is my personal e-mail and
I review it several times daily.
John Lazenby
Royze
Inc.
1990 W. Corporate Way
Anaheim, CA 92801
714
533-1823
800 421-2011
714 533-1206 Fax
800 999-7349
Fax
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:30
PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] electric fuel
pump
Argh, should have said my car has a rear factory
defroster. Since it's only hot when the ignition
is switched on I didn't think to mention that
either. Power to the pump should be switched and fused.
Still some risks with this set up... like
what if you had an accident with the pump on. Modern cars
have
some kind of impact switch that shuts off power
to the pump. Compared to pouring gas down the carb
every few days I'll take the chance.
LeRoy,
I use an electric pump but only to prime the
carbs on my 57 Chrysler. I have the pump installed near the fuel tank.
Mine is wired to the factory defrost fan (convenient). I turn on the fan
for a minute or so and the pump runs. Then off, then start the car.
Otherwise a fused momentary button or toggle switch on the dash
works. There are some electric pumps that won't work for this. The
mechanical pump can't pump through them. I had a Carter that wouldn't work
that way. That pump was kind of 6" long cylinder looking unit. The right
pump is a 2.5 - 3 inch little square block. It puts out 2-4 psi. No
regulator needed at that pressure. No problem with whatever gallons per
minute. It won't be an issue with our cars.
This guy has them-
John won't get his emails till Monday at work.
Maybe $25-30.
If the mechanical pump ever fails I carry a
section of rubber fuel hose, clamps and a fitting. Install the rubber hose
between the metal fuel line at the front frame rail and connect directly
to carb, bypassing the mechanical pump.
Then use the electric pump to get
home.
Jim Krausmann
From: "lr thompson"
< lr.thompson@xxxxxxxxx> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSent: Saturday, November 17, 2012
12:55:21 PM Subject: [FWDLK] electric fuel
pump
Hello everyone,
I am thinking of putting an electric fuel pump on my 56 Desoto.
This ethanol fuel seems to evaporate out of the carburetor when the car
sets of a couple of weeks without being started. Has anyone done
this, which pump should I use, do I need a separate pressure regulator,
etc?
Mac's lists a 12 volt Carter pump that puts out 2 to 4 psi. I
have the stock Carter four barrel carb on my car.
Any advice is appreciated.
regards, LeRoy
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