Well that's nice of you to hold the defunct 1957 dealer harmless, but you
have no empirical evidence to suggest that the battery was indeed
switched...
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth, '66
Plymouth, '41 Dodge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eastern Sierra Adjustment Services" <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jan & Roger van Hoy" <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "forwardlook"
<L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Miss Belvie's battery..
The 4-miles included the trip to the site; no big risk to the dealer, once
it got started.
Times were different in the 50's; I don't really blame the dealer for
switching batteries on it.
Neil Vedder
Jan & Roger van Hoy wrote:
Yes... except that the car was driven a bit [4 miles] in 1957, probably
started up to drive it to... it's doom... and what dealer would risk his
reputation over a $15 battery?
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth, '66
Plymouth, '41 Dodge
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eastern Sierra Adjustment Services"
<esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Miss Belvie's battery..
So, the question then becomes: did the astute dealership, REALIZING that
the car would
not see the light-of-day for .5century, say : "HEY, why am I gong to
lose-out on installing
a perfectly-good MoPar battery in this non-Dodge (ahem), when I could
just install some
nasty generic battery, that can't-hardly hold a charge, in this poor
thing?"
"Who'll care, 50 years from now? Not me! "
Neil Vedder
Mark H wrote:
This is one detail I actually paid pretty close attention to in Tulsa.
A coupla years ago I bought one of those Ultima batteries for Mr.
Finzzz and one of those plastic repro battery cases that supposedly
look like the actual batteries from the fifties, so you can fool the
car show people into thinking you have a real fifties battery (right!).
Anyway, one of the nights when our small group of vandals broke in and
took pictures with Miss B and the security guards at the indoor car
show, I was curious as to whether my repop battery case looked like a
REAL original, so I peeked into the engine compartment to look at Miss
B's battery. I moved it around a little - and saw no logos anywhere.
I spun off one of the plastic filler lids (I found actual real Mopar
lids for use on the repop plastic - adds to the authenticity!) and was
surprised to see no names or logos on it either!
It made me question whether the Mopar filler lids I have were true to
the cars, or some sort of battery accessory - you wouldn't think they
would've put many dealer add-on accesories to the car they were going
to bury . . . .
Mark mjh
'57 Fury
Sutherlin, OR
*/Jan & Roger van Hoy <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
I sincerely doubt that Pic #3 is the identical replacement battery
for a '57
Dodge or Plymouth. Why?
[1] The curved "m" emblem for MoPar wasn't used until later.
[2] The book from which you took the photo says Pic #1 for 1956-58
Chrysler
Prod.
[3] My 1955-58 Parts Book already has a superceded number for the
1956-58
Dodge/Plymouth/DeSoto 50 amp battery, 1818959 [wet] and 1818932
[dry].
That, coincidentally, is the number for the 1956-58 Chrysler 50
amp battery.
In other words, replacement # does not match original #.
In addition to the parts book, I looked thru my '58 DeSoto and '56
Plymouth
FSM's; the battery pix are the same as the Parts book, none of
which show
the label.
So, for those who strive for absolute authenticity...
fughettabouttit !!!
Or maybe buy one of the #1 batteries from Neil's vendor pic.
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56
Plymouth, '66
Plymouth, '41 Dodge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eastern Sierra Adjustment Services"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: [FWDLK] Miss Belvie's battery..
>I think that George McKovich PM'ed me, to say that the MoPar logo,
on
> Ms. Belvie's battery (as depicted on the attached Antique Auto
battery
> folder)
> was seen to have been placed/oriented toward the fender, instead
of its
> facing
> inboard, toward the engine compartment.
>
> BTW, Style-3 is OEM-correct for Group 24 1957+ cars.
>
> The placement of the battery terminals pretty much determines
how the
> battery
> is to be installed, on the inner fender.
>
> Ron Water's pics, from last week, clearly(?) showed that there
was no
> visible
> logo facing the engine compartment, AND(??) that the battery
caps may have
> been white-colored.
>
> I'm wondering what color to re-paint the yellow "Delco"
fake-caps which
> appear on the Tar-Topper-fake-battery-lid, after I remove the
"Delco"
> embossments FROM the fake-caps.
>
> Neil Vedder
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