I would have some issues/concerns with Dave's club's "Street Stock", for
SURE!
Any hard-to-find item: "Well, gee, I just UP-graded, with a chromed
'dooie'......my chrome should be judged higher (cause it polishes-up, so
nicely) than your nasty-aged looking OEM 'dooie'.
If it were MY club......I would limit the NUMBER
of obvious-changes-from-OEM to "X", as a "Street Stock" car could have
a LOT of bright-shiney subtle-or-not changes/upgrades to it,
literally, from the wheels, to the paint (color, and clear coat).
Neil Vedder
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- From: Dave Homstad <dhomstad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:47:12 -0700
One club I belong to has 4 categories for cars, with claasses by year in each.
1. Unrestored: no more than 2 body panels painted, no more than one seat panel replaced, no modifications.
2. Stock: restored to factory specs.
3. Street stock: minor modifications such as custom wheels, chrome engine parts, headers, etc.
4. Modified: major modifications such as body mods, wild paint, superchargers, non-original engines, etc.
Everybody seems to be happy with these classes. The biggest complaint is that it is very difficult for a car driven 1000 miles to compete with a trailered car rolled up onto an enclosed trailer.
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
---- Charles Pollock <cpollock@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello All,
> Just wanted to add my pennies as well-
> It USED to be that for a car to be considered a 'survivor' it had to be
> at least 75% original. How that was determined was determined by the
> judging people before the Nats took place. That- as MANY of you have
> noted, has changed. I think I know why. Because 'survivor' status for
> any mopar these days will make the car MUCH more valuable. I'm sure
> many of you have seen how much a 'survivor' brings at that joke of an
> auction Barrett-Jackson. Always more than a correctly restored car of
> similar options, etc.
> Sorry, memory is getting shorter as I get older, but someone told the
> tale of their nicely original/restored 66 Charger getting beaten by a
> modified Charger at a show. I am sad to say this is why I stopped
> entering my Chargers in shows as well. The Modified Charger is what
> many in the hobby are now calling 'day two' restorations. These are
> cars with period correct speed/appearance parts. In other words, the
> car appears as it would have after the first owner had put on all of the
> hop-up items that he would of the day after he bought the car.
> Generally, this means aftermarket wheels, headers, gauges, steering
> wheel, etc.
> The thing is that these items, if done correctly, MUST be from that era
> or be direct replacements from that era. A good example is Torquethrust
> wheels. They never went out of production. OR Anson aluminum slotted
> wheels. These came back into production for this very example.
> Now, the problem is that most judges don't bother to check the
> authenticity of these items. They just note them.
> All of this is why correctly restored cars get beat by the modified cars.
> Any decent car show will give the 'day two-s' their own category. Many
> (most) do not.
> So- I just don't show my cars....and it appears many of you don't either.
> This really is ashame.
> Why? because, again as someone else noted, you can now go to shows and
> see nothing but the day 2's.
> Soon enough everyone is going to forget what the original cars looked
> like because no one brings them out anymore.
>
> Personally, I go to the Nats every year. I have since 1989. I showed
> my Chargers there until 1996. That's when I saw the trend appear. I
> wouldn't pay the money now (or lets face it 19 gallons of 94 octane aint
> cheap, and I would burn 4-5 tanks in a weekend) to take one of my cars
> to this show. Not to be stuck in the middle of a huge dusty field and
> have people pass the car over simply because it ISN'T modified.
> Now- on a positive note-
> I did see some very nice FWLK cars there this year. A 60 and 61 300
> letter series cars most notable. Beautifully restored or just original
> I don't know.
> BOTH stuck in the middle of that damn field. At least the 61 was near
> the Dodge test drive area so you had to pass it on the test drive route,
> but a crying shame that two such beautiful cars weren't even given their
> own areas. This is on top of a couple belvederes, a coronet, a couple
> desotos and the 413 cross ram powered 61 Dodge Seneca? that was the
> topic of discussion here not long ago. The people who run the Nats have
> no idea how to 'run the nats' if you get my meaning!
>
> Anyway,
> Sorry for the rambling,
> Charles.
>
>
> Jimmy Johns wrote:
>
> > This is my 2 pennys as some of you have seen my 67 Coronet 440 at the
> > Tulsa show it has had the sides and hood touched up the underside and
> > interior are as factory as they come and all my chrome is original
> > drip lines and all. I have just recently replaced the original plug
> > wires,lower radiator hose, and belts these were all original with
> > MoPar #'s. I was told that due to the paint work that my car is no
> > longer considered a survivor, this is why I will not return to those
> > joke nationals in ohio among a few other reasons. Oh I do believe the
> > grille has been replaced some where along the cars life it has only
> > 49K on it after the T-Town trip and like many of you I enjoy the heck
> > out of my cars. Even my customized 59 Custom Royal with that big block
> > MoPower. And as far as Neil's knowledge of the FWLK MoP's there is no
> > one more with it, and he can prove it to.
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
> >
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