One club I belong to has 4 categories for cars, with claasses by year in each. 1. Unrestored: no more than 2 body panels painted, no more than one seat panel replaced, no modifications. 2. Stock: restored to factory specs. 3. Street stock: minor modifications such as custom wheels, chrome engine parts, headers, etc. 4. Modified: major modifications such as body mods, wild paint, superchargers, non-original engines, etc. Everybody seems to be happy with these classes. The biggest complaint is that it is very difficult for a car driven 1000 miles to compete with a trailered car rolled up onto an enclosed trailer. Dave Homstad 56 Dodge D500 ---- Charles Pollock <cpollock@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello All, > Just wanted to add my pennies as well- > It USED to be that for a car to be considered a 'survivor' it had to be > at least 75% original. How that was determined was determined by the > judging people before the Nats took place. That- as MANY of you have > noted, has changed. I think I know why. Because 'survivor' status for > any mopar these days will make the car MUCH more valuable. I'm sure > many of you have seen how much a 'survivor' brings at that joke of an > auction Barrett-Jackson. Always more than a correctly restored car of > similar options, etc. > Sorry, memory is getting shorter as I get older, but someone told the > tale of their nicely original/restored 66 Charger getting beaten by a > modified Charger at a show. I am sad to say this is why I stopped > entering my Chargers in shows as well. The Modified Charger is what > many in the hobby are now calling 'day two' restorations. These are > cars with period correct speed/appearance parts. In other words, the > car appears as it would have after the first owner had put on all of the > hop-up items that he would of the day after he bought the car. > Generally, this means aftermarket wheels, headers, gauges, steering > wheel, etc. > The thing is that these items, if done correctly, MUST be from that era > or be direct replacements from that era. A good example is Torquethrust > wheels. They never went out of production. OR Anson aluminum slotted > wheels. These came back into production for this very example. > Now, the problem is that most judges don't bother to check the > authenticity of these items. They just note them. > All of this is why correctly restored cars get beat by the modified cars. > Any decent car show will give the 'day two-s' their own category. Many > (most) do not. > So- I just don't show my cars....and it appears many of you don't either. > This really is ashame. > Why? because, again as someone else noted, you can now go to shows and > see nothing but the day 2's. > Soon enough everyone is going to forget what the original cars looked > like because no one brings them out anymore. > > Personally, I go to the Nats every year. I have since 1989. I showed > my Chargers there until 1996. That's when I saw the trend appear. I > wouldn't pay the money now (or lets face it 19 gallons of 94 octane aint > cheap, and I would burn 4-5 tanks in a weekend) to take one of my cars > to this show. Not to be stuck in the middle of a huge dusty field and > have people pass the car over simply because it ISN'T modified. > Now- on a positive note- > I did see some very nice FWLK cars there this year. A 60 and 61 300 > letter series cars most notable. Beautifully restored or just original > I don't know. > BOTH stuck in the middle of that damn field. At least the 61 was near > the Dodge test drive area so you had to pass it on the test drive route, > but a crying shame that two such beautiful cars weren't even given their > own areas. This is on top of a couple belvederes, a coronet, a couple > desotos and the 413 cross ram powered 61 Dodge Seneca? that was the > topic of discussion here not long ago. The people who run the Nats have > no idea how to 'run the nats' if you get my meaning! > > Anyway, > Sorry for the rambling, > Charles. > > > Jimmy Johns wrote: > > > This is my 2 pennys as some of you have seen my 67 Coronet 440 at the > > Tulsa show it has had the sides and hood touched up the underside and > > interior are as factory as they come and all my chrome is original > > drip lines and all. I have just recently replaced the original plug > > wires,lower radiator hose, and belts these were all original with > > MoPar #'s. I was told that due to the paint work that my car is no > > longer considered a survivor, this is why I will not return to those > > joke nationals in ohio among a few other reasons. Oh I do believe the > > grille has been replaced some where along the cars life it has only > > 49K on it after the T-Town trip and like many of you I enjoy the heck > > out of my cars. Even my customized 59 Custom Royal with that big block > > MoPower. And as far as Neil's knowledge of the FWLK MoP's there is no > > one more with it, and he can prove it to. > > > > Jimmy > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ************************************************************* > > To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to > http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 |