Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
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Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge



 
Yes, that is my work and it did, indeed, take twenty years to collect all the data and compile it all.  Every word and number in that book was typed by myself. . 
 
It contains prices and weights of every model of vehicle sold in Canada from 1930 to 1980 by North American manufacturers that, at one time or another, assembled cars in Canada.  It shows which models were imported, along with American and Canadian serial numbers and engine numbers. 
 
Thus the list includes :
General Motors of Canada -
Vauxhall, Envoy, Acadian, Beamount, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Marquette, Oakland. Oldsmobile, Viking, McLaughlin-Buick, Buick, LaSalle, Cadillac
 
Ford Motor of Canada -
Frontenac, Ford, Meteor, Edsel, Mercury, Monarch, Lincoln, Continental
 
Chrysler of Canada -
Valiant, Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler, Imperial
 
Studebaker of Canada -
Studebaker, Erskine, Rockne, Pierce-Arrow, Clipper, Packard
 
American Motors (Canada) -
Nash, LaFayette, Hudson, Essex, Terraplane, Graham, Kaiser, Frazer. Henry J, Willys, Whippet, Willys-Knight, Rambler and AMC
 
and some miscellaneous makes -
Durant, Frontenac, Reo, Hupmobile
 
Each car has a short history, as does each manufacturer, and the book shows examples of serial number plates and data tags from the 1940's through 1966-67.  It also lists the various colours and codes from 1950 through 1966 for GM, Ford, Chrysler, Studebaker, Nash and AMC.   Did not have enough info for Hudson or Kaiser.
 
So, if you have, say, a 1935 Hupmobile Six, model W517, and want to confirm itrs serial number and that it was assembled in Canada, all the info is there.  Or if you want to know the original price and weight of your 1957 Dodge Mayfair 4-door hardtop and would like to confirm what colour code 3127 (Upper - Icecap White; Saddle -Muscatel Maroon; Lower - Peach Glow Coral).
 
Although not published in the book, I also have info on Canadian makes prior to 1930 and also from 1981 through to 2006.  Plus European, Japanese, etc. imports. from the 1930's to 2006. 
 
Bill
Vancouver, BC
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge

I dunno. Maybe be allready did. Bill, is this you?
 
 
Jim Krausmann
Detroit
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Roger Howard <roger.d.howard@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> Bill,
> As I read your post, the thought occurred to me..why not publish or sell
> this information you have collected, and then, as I read on, I realised why
> you can't get others "in the know" to divulge their acquired
> information...money.
> roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Watson"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
>
>
> > Collectible Automobile did an article on the 1957-59 Dodges, complete with
> > production figures. The article was written by Mr. Jeffrey I. Godshall,
> > whose "daytime" job is interior stylist at Da! imlerCh rysler. Thus he has
> > access to records in various departments and knows quite a few persons who
> > either work at DC now or in the past. Mr. Godshall has written excellent
> > articles for CA on various Chrysler makes over the years and has included
> > production figures and photos of styling department models.as the car
> > designs progress.
> >
> > Getting back to the original quesiton, the lack of numbers for 1956 to
> > 1970
> > Dodges is not due to the fact they are not available, it is due to the
> > fact
> > no one has bothered to dig them out.
> >
> > Dodge production figures from 1930 through 1955 first appeared in "The
> > Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley, published by
> > Motorbooks International in 1977. The Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto figures
> > were supplied by the late Don But! ler, au thor of "The Plymouth and DeSoto
> > Story", 1978. At the time Mr. Heasley's book was written, 1955 was as far
> > as Mr. Butler had gotten.
> >
> > In Mr. Heasley's book, the 1939 model D13 and 1951-52 model D39 are for
> > Canadian-built Plymouth-sized Dodges (1939 DeLuxe Six and 1951-52
> > Kingsway).
> > The book did not print the production numbers for the 1939 D11D (Luxury
> > Liner DeLuxe) which has resulted in more than one author to claim various
> > 1939 models, such as the long-wheelbase models, were not built. The
> > numbers for the 1949 model D30 are missing the long-wheelbase sedan.
> > Again,
> > instead of approaching Chrysler Historical and asking for the 1949
> > production nunbers, writers have just regurgitated Mr. Heasley's numbers
> > and
> > declared that no LWB 1949 Dodges were built. That many can reme! mber > > seeing
> > them on the road over the years is apparently ignored. When I moced to
> > Vancouver in 1994 there was a 1949 Dodge D30 Custom (as the Coronet was
> > sold
> > in Canada) LWB sedan in a yard east of Edmonton.
> >
> > Consumer's Guide published "Cars of the 50's" and "Cars of the 60's" in
> > the
> > late 1970's. Both were less than 100 pages and included production
> > figures
> > at the back of the book. These figures were by series / model and not by
> > body style. Again, these figures are quoted time and again by writers,
> > including Consumer's Guide themselves, and no one has asked Chrysler
> > Historical to do a bit of digging. The information is there, just that no
> > one has taken the time to do retrieve them.
> >
> > By the way, old car clubs for Plymouth, DeSoto and the W.P.C. club ! have > > published some excellent histories along with production figures. I have,
> > thus, been able to acquire the production figures for 1939 Dodge, all
> > models, plus 1941 Dodge, 1954 Dodge, 1960 Valiant and the 1962-65
> > 880/Custom
> > 880. Awhile ago I acquired some photcopies of Chrysler production
> > reports
> > for 1965 to 1972 for cars built in the U.S. and Canada for sale in the
> > U.S.
> > I do not have figures for cars built for Canada for those years, sadly.
> >
> > C.A. also published articles on the 1960-61 and 1962-64 Dodges. So I have
> > figures for those years. I actually have those figures broken by 6 and
> > V8,
> > Canada and the U.S. Plus after doing some digging I have been able to
> > put
> > together figures for 1956. "The Dodge Story" had figures for the
> > Coronets,
> >! ; conve rtibles and some wagons and I have been able to find numbers for
> > other
> > models in various articles. By putting them all togather, I now have a
> > complete listing.
> >
> > Unlike General Motors, Ford and Studebaker, finding Mopar body style
> > production information is like finding hen's teeth. The sad part about it
> > is that there are people outside Chrysler Historial who have complete
> > information dating from the 1930's into the 1970's. But these people are
> > not willing to share. I've asked.
> >
> > Bill
> > Vancouver, BC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Waters"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build number! s for 5 9 Dodge
> >
> >
> >> Hey Bill -
> >>
> >> What is the source of your info ? The Standard Catalog of American Cars,
> >> published by Old Cars Weekly, says there is no breakout by model.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Watson"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
> >>
> >>
> >> > He is partially right - there were 2,151 Coronet SIX 2-door hardtops
> > biilt
> >> > in 1959
> >> >
> >> > For 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtops -
> >> > Coronet 6 - 2,151
> >> > Coronet V8 - 19,283
> >> > Royal - 3,483
>! ; >& gt; > Custom Royal - 4,693
> >> > Total - 39,610
> >> >
> >> > A further 1,585 Custom Royal 2-door hardtops were built in Canada
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >> > Vancouver, BC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Larry Ashbaugh
> >> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:35 PM
> >> > Subject: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This eBay seller says that there were only 2151 Coronet 2dr HTs built
> >> > in
> >> > 1959. That is insane. Anyone know the true numbers? Also, does that
> >> > engine look like a 326?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>! http:/ /cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Dodge-Coronet-2-Door-Hardtop-one-of-only-2-1
> 51_W0QQitemZ280009155128
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Larry (Akron)
> >> >
> >
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