Sad, but true. Unfortunately, I do not have enough production information to do a book on it. But, I will continue to share what I have. Bill Vancouver, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Howard" <roger.d.howard@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > Bill, > As I read your post, the thought occurred to me..why not publish or sell > this information you have collected, and then, as I read on, I realised why > you can't get others "in the know" to divulge their acquired > information...money. > roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > > > > Collectible Automobile did an article on the 1957-59 Dodges, complete with > > production figures. The article was written by Mr. Jeffrey I. Godshall, > > whose "daytime" job is interior stylist at DaimlerChrysler. Thus he has > > access to records in various departments and knows quite a few persons who > > either work at DC now or in the past. Mr. Godshall has written excellent > > articles for CA on various Chrysler makes over the years and has included > > production figures and photos of styling department models.as the car > > designs progress. > > > > Getting back to the original quesiton, the lack of numbers for 1956 to > > 1970 > > Dodges is not due to the fact they are not available, it is due to the > > fact > > no one has bothered to dig them out. > > > > Dodge production figures from 1930 through 1955 first appeared in "The > > Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley, published by > > Motorbooks International in 1977. The Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto figures > > were supplied by the late Don Butler, author of "The Plymouth and DeSoto > > Story", 1978. At the time Mr. Heasley's book was written, 1955 was as far > > as Mr. Butler had gotten. > > > > In Mr. Heasley's book, the 1939 model D13 and 1951-52 model D39 are for > > Canadian-built Plymouth-sized Dodges (1939 DeLuxe Six and 1951-52 > > Kingsway). > > The book did not print the production numbers for the 1939 D11D (Luxury > > Liner DeLuxe) which has resulted in more than one author to claim various > > 1939 models, such as the long-wheelbase models, were not built. The > > numbers for the 1949 model D30 are missing the long-wheelbase sedan. > > Again, > > instead of approaching Chrysler Historical and asking for the 1949 > > production nunbers, writers have just regurgitated Mr. Heasley's numbers > > and > > declared that no LWB 1949 Dodges were built. That many can remember > > seeing > > them on the road over the years is apparently ignored. When I moced to > > Vancouver in 1994 there was a 1949 Dodge D30 Custom (as the Coronet was > > sold > > in Canada) LWB sedan in a yard east of Edmonton. > > > > Consumer's Guide published "Cars of the 50's" and "Cars of the 60's" in > > the > > late 1970's. Both were less than 100 pages and included production > > figures > > at the back of the book. These figures were by series / model and not by > > body style. Again, these figures are quoted time and again by writers, > > including Consumer's Guide themselves, and no one has asked Chrysler > > Historical to do a bit of digging. The information is there, just that no > > one has taken the time to do retrieve them. > > > > By the way, old car clubs for Plymouth, DeSoto and the W.P.C. club have > > published some excellent histories along with production figures. I have, > > thus, been able to acquire the production figures for 1939 Dodge, all > > models, plus 1941 Dodge, 1954 Dodge, 1960 Valiant and the 1962-65 > > 880/Custom > > 880. Awhile ago I acquired some photcopies of Chrysler production > > reports > > for 1965 to 1972 for cars built in the U.S. and Canada for sale in the > > U.S. > > I do not have figures for cars built for Canada for those years, sadly. > > > > C.A. also published articles on the 1960-61 and 1962-64 Dodges. So I have > > figures for those years. I actually have those figures broken by 6 and > > V8, > > Canada and the U.S. Plus after doing some digging I have been able to > > put > > together figures for 1956. "The Dodge Story" had figures for the > > Coronets, > > convertibles and some wagons and I have been able to find numbers for > > other > > models in various articles. By putting them all togather, I now have a > > complete listing. > > > > Unlike General Motors, Ford and Studebaker, finding Mopar body style > > production information is like finding hen's teeth. The sad part about it > > is that there are people outside Chrysler Historial who have complete > > information dating from the 1930's into the 1970's. But these people are > > not willing to share. I've asked. > > > > Bill > > Vancouver, BC > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > > > > > >> Hey Bill - > >> > >> What is the source of your info ? The Standard Catalog of American Cars, > >> published by Old Cars Weekly, says there is no breakout by model. > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:05 AM > >> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > >> > >> > >> > He is partially right - there were 2,151 Coronet SIX 2-door hardtops > > biilt > >> > in 1959 > >> > > >> > For 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtops - > >> > Coronet 6 - 2,151 > >> > Coronet V8 - 19,283 > >> > Royal - 3,483 > >> > Custom Royal - 4,693 > >> > Total - 39,610 > >> > > >> > A further 1,585 Custom Royal 2-door hardtops were built in Canada > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > Vancouver, BC > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Larry Ashbaugh > >> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:35 PM > >> > Subject: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > >> > > >> > > >> > This eBay seller says that there were only 2151 Coronet 2dr HTs built > >> > in > >> > 1959. That is insane. Anyone know the true numbers? Also, does that > >> > engine look like a 326? > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Dodge-Coronet-2-Door-Hardtop-one-of-only-2-151_W0QQitemZ280009155128 > >> > > >> > > >> > Larry (Akron) > >> > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to > > http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 > > ************************************************************* > > To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to > http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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