Hello:
I was in the Department of Licensing hell just a few weeks back
discussing this issue, and the evil woman behind the desk told me that if you
buy these plates, that you can only drive the car on Sundays, or to and from a
car show where the car is registered to be shown. I see that you
have much the same story listed in your posts. Having said that, there is
a local guy that drives his 1967 Chevy pickup, fully restored, back and forth to
work every day on his collector plates. I am told that if you are caught
driving a "antique" licensed vehicle during times that do not fall under the
guidelines, that the fines are very high. Not sure that I would like to
play roulette with the fines, and also not sure that I would like to be stuck
only driving the car on Sunday if I am not taking it to a car
show. Paul, since you already have the plates, what experience do you
have with the restrictions on these plates? I registered
my DeSotos in the standard fashion because sometimes me and kids just
want to drive these old cars for the hell of it, I mean...that IS why I have
them.
Thanks in advance for the input Paul,
Teresa & Chad Smith
Kennewick, WA
Lovers of all things Mopar
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:13
PM
Subject: RE: IML: Antique Status for WA
State Cars
I am also in Washington and have used the "Restored Plate" to
license my cars. The State only charges a one time fee of around $36.00 to
register the car, but the plate can cost a lot depending on who sells it to
you. With this type of license, only one plate is required, but I usually buy
a matched pair since the cars look better with two plates.
The mileage
and usage limits are okay with me since they are all insured as collectables
anyway. I really have a hard time finding time to drive any of them enough to
use up the allowable mileage, not that there is any way that they would ever
know.
Paul
In an email dated Fri, 17 12 2004 2:51:42 pm GMT,
"Hall, Marc F" <marc.f.hall@xxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
>Hi Bill,
>
>Nice to pay for tabs only once, I
highly recommend that all of our IMP
>pals in WA state get these plates
if your cars qualify !!!!
>
>Both my 66 Crown Coupe and my 67 300
Convertible have collector status
>since 1998. This means that I can use
either the Blue collector plates
>or WA State Plates that were used in
the year of the automobile
>manufacture. Most licensing facilities have
a list of which type of
>plates were used in WA State over the
years.
>I have the original 66 plates from when the Imperial was
purchased at
>Burien Chrysler Plymouth. The 67 300 has plates from my
parted out 79
>Subaru, they are the correct plates for 67 thru at least
79 for WA State
>autos.
>
>The WA State antique status
requires a one time registration & licensing
>fee, after than no
more registration is required unless the car is sold
>or moved to
another state. The car must be at least 30 years old to
>qualify for
this type of antique status. I drive the cars quite a bit,
>and have
never been questioned by law enforcement regarding the car use
>and if
that use fits into the "Special Requirements" listed
below.
>
>Note that using the car for "pleasure" is an acceptable
use under the
>requirements. That kind of implies that as long as me or
someone else
>is "pleased" with using the car, then that "pleasurable"
car use is
>allowed under those "Special Requirements." Special
excursions to the
>grocery store, auto parts store, Christmas shopping
or for dates or the
>drive in are sure to be allowed under the "Special
Excursion" clause.
>
>
>
> Here is the requirements
for WA State Antique/ Collector
Plates:
>http://www.dol.wa.gov/vs/specialtyplates/reqantique.htm
>
>
>Special
Requirements for Antique and Collector Plates
>
>
>Antique
motor vehicles include those vehicles over 40 years old
>displaying
Horseless Carriage plates.
>
>Collector vehicles are those
vehicles at least 30 years old and older
>with either collector vehicle
license plates.
>
>A Restored license plate is a Washington-issued
license plate designed
>for use in the year of the vehicle's
manufacture. The restored license
>plate may be used instead of a
vehicle license plate or horseless
>carriage license plate. The license
plate must be restored to such a
>condition that it may be identified
with its year of issue.
>Reproductions of the original are not
acceptable for use as a restored
>license
plate.
>
>Antique/Collector vehicles must be:
>
>*
Owned and operated as collector vehicles, and
>* Capable of operating on
the highway.
>
>Antique/Collector vehicles may be
driven:
>
>* To and from auto shows, circuses, parades, displays,
special
>excursions, antique car club meetings, and
>* For testing
purposes, and,
>* For pleasure of others without
compensation.
>
>Antique/Collector vehicles may not be used
for:
>
>* Commercial purposes or to carry a load, or
>*
Regular transportation in the manner of a fully
licensed
>vehicle.
>
>Antique/Collector License Plates,
which include Collector, Horseless
>Carriage or Restored license plates
may be:
>
>1. May be assigned to currently registered passenger
vehicle,
>motorcycles or trucks
>2. Are good for the life of
vehicle
>3. Are not required to display month/year tab
>4. Are not
renewed annually
>5. Must be displayed on the rear of the vehicle. If
the customer
>provides a set of plates they may display one on the front
and the other
>on the back of the vehicle, and
>6. May be applied
for through any licensing office. Customer
>provides restored
plates.
>
>
>Happy holidays!
>
>Marc in
Mukilteo
>
>Asia & M.A.R.S. Regional
Manager
>Intellectual Property Management
>Boeing Commercial
Aircraft Services
>206-544-5021 phone
>206-544-0812
fax
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wm. R. Ulman
[mailto:twolaneblacktop@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004
9:31 PM
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
Subject: RE: IML: Price guides
>
>
> In Seattle, King
County, WA, and now the entire state (I think)
>they use the Old Car
Price Guide. That is how they taxed my '66 vert
>when I bought it in
Sept. 2000. They asked me the condition the car was
>in. I had a bill of
sale for $200.00, which was a pure lie so I would
>not have to pay a
high sales tax on the car when I titled, and
>registered it. That is why
they now use OCPG. To many people with
>bills of sale for $100.00. I
said it was not running, with no
>transmission, or glass, and would be
parted out. They taxed it on a #5
>value, which was still a bit of
change as I remember. My renewal tabs
>each year run about $70.00, but I
have vanity plates: FIT4AQN, and they
>have never said a word. If they
did, I would just say I chose to
>restore it. What could they
do?
>
> Many people in WA now buy "Collector Car" plates. They
are
>actually stamped with that phrase, and then some numbers. You pay
once,
>and never again. Caveat is, your only supposed to drive the car
less
>than a couple thousand miles per year. I have not heard of
anybody
>being busted over it, and I see a lot of cars running around
with these
>plates. At least on Capital Hill, where all the kids (with
any taste at
>all, given the low rider Honda popularity) drive old
Darts, Falcons,
>Novas, and Corvairs.
>
> My experience
anyway in Seattle DOL. I'll let you know from
>prison if they catch
on.
>
> Bill Ulman
> '66 Crown Convertible - Doris
Day
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of
>Cebuisle2@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, December 16,
2004 2:50 PM
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
Subject: Re: IML: Price guides
>
>
>
> Hello
friends-
>
> I have followed the thread about price guides for
some
>days now with interest. I have sold a number of 55-65 Imps that
were
>parts cars-never could get more than a few hundred for
them.
> However, the annual county car tax rip off assures me
my
>number 4 Imp is an extremely valuable car, and taxes me accordingly
from
>some unknown "value book" that the tax assessor claims he uses.
The
>"value" of the car is far beyond what I could get for it in the
market..
> Anyone know what book this is?
>
>Ted
Blackington
>
>
>
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