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Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions




    Again, thank you to all who responded to my query! It seems I am keeping some very good and knowledgeable company here. Alex-63 Crown.


Bill Watson wrote:
The pentastar appeared on all Mopar cars in February 1963.  The pentastar
was introduced to represent all the products produced by the Chrysler
Corporation and it seems counterproductive to introduce the new symbol on
only one of the corporation's products.   Especially when the plants
producing those products also produce the other car lines.

What date was your parts book printed?   The pentastar would appear in parts
books printed after February 1963.   I have a Chrysler of Canada parts
catalogue, with revisions dated December 15, 1962, and there is no mention
of the pentastar.  But the Canadian 1960-1963 Valiant parts catalogue (which
also covers US Valiant, Lancer and Dart) with revisions dated March 15,
1963, does list the pentastar.  The part number is 2445 182 and is held in
place by one 152 259 nut and one 6000 050 clip.  No idea what these look
like as neither book carries Group 18, Standard Parts, which Chrysler Canada
issued as a separate catalogue.

Check the car's scheduled build date.  If date is later than mid-February,
1963, the pentastar would be factory.  Earlier than February and it was put
on the car by the dealer or some owner.   With the pentastar, I believe you
will find more cars that should have them and don't than the other way
around.  The pentastars are small while the later ones are plastic.  Thus
they are easy to break or get mangled and lost in an accident.  As few
people know it is there, most would never know it was not replaced when body
repairs were done.

Bill
Vancouver, BC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mark Evans
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions


The Pentastar first appeared on Chrysler products in the 1963 model year. If
you look at the brochures and promotional materials for '63, you will likely
not find the Pentastar. According to what I've read, the Pentastar first was
mounted on Dodge Dart, 330, 440, Polara and 880 models in February of 1963.
I don't show them on Chryslers or Imperials until the 1964 model year.

The dealer also could have installed them on other cars though; a kit was
available at the time. Indeed, many dealers did install them on Dodges that
were sitting on the lots. By 1964, all Chrysler products had the Pentastar
installed only on the passenger side.

Looking through the 63 parts book, I don't find any references to the
Pentastar. So, I doubt that your car came with it. You can verify that you
have an early Pentastar by looking for the appropriate holes. You should
have a lower 5/32" hole and a 1/8" hole above it. The larger stud should
have a factory-style speed nut installed on it and the back should be
splattered with black weatherstripping tar.

Hope that helps.

Mark Evans
1963 Imperial Crown Convertible
http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyImperial/index.html
1968 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible
http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyPolara/index.html

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alex Ferch
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions


Thanks! Alex

Don Hudson wrote:

It's supposed to be there and only on the passenger side.
Don
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alex Ferch
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions


    Evenin' all! There's a gold Chrysler "Pentastar" beneath the Imperial
script on the right front fender of my 63 Crown. Is this supposed to be
there? I've seen them on other later year Mopars I've owned but I don't have
any Imperials around here to compare to. If it does belong there, should I
assume there should also be one on the driver's side fender? Thanks in
advance!

Alex 63 Crown



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