Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions

["Mark Evans" <evansma@xxxxxxxxxx>]

My parts book is a factory "desk reference" covering Chrysler, Plymouth, and
Imperial issued October, 1963. It seems to have all the suplements (don't
know for sure) since there are some inserts from mid to late 1965. I posted
the Imperial related pages here:
    http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1963/PartsBook/index.htm

The relevant page is here:
    http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1963/PartsBook/Mouldings-2DoorCrown.htm

This is just the 2-door Crown. You can reference the other cars from the
first link though. It was updated 3 January, 1964. I would think that, if
available, it would have been shown / illustrated.

I also have the enumerated part number list at the back of the Imperial
section that I can look through for the pentastar part number. The part
number I have is 2495798 for the retro-fit kit. If available for Imperial, I
would expect that to be in the book.

If a '63 had one and lost it, there should be two vertical holes filled.
Now, I'm going to have to look behind the inner-fender-well for the holes!

Mark Evans
1963 Imperial Crown Convertible
http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyImperial/index.html
1968 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible
http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyPolara/index.html

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions


>
> The pentastar appeared on all Mopar cars in February 1963.  The pentastar
> was introduced to represent all the products produced by the Chrysler
> Corporation and it seems counterproductive to introduce the new symbol on
> only one of the corporation's products.   Especially when the plants
> producing those products also produce the other car lines.
>
> What date was your parts book printed?   The pentastar would appear in
parts
> books printed after February 1963.   I have a Chrysler of Canada parts
> catalogue, with revisions dated December 15, 1962, and there is no mention
> of the pentastar.  But the Canadian 1960-1963 Valiant parts catalogue
(which
> also covers US Valiant, Lancer and Dart) with revisions dated March 15,
> 1963, does list the pentastar.  The part number is 2445 182 and is held in
> place by one 152 259 nut and one 6000 050 clip.  No idea what these look
> like as neither book carries Group 18, Standard Parts, which Chrysler
Canada
> issued as a separate catalogue.
>
> Check the car's scheduled build date.  If date is later than mid-February,
> 1963, the pentastar would be factory.  Earlier than February and it was
put
> on the car by the dealer or some owner.   With the pentastar, I believe
you
> will find more cars that should have them and don't than the other way
> around.  The pentastars are small while the later ones are plastic.  Thus
> they are easy to break or get mangled and lost in an accident.  As few
> people know it is there, most would never know it was not replaced when
body
> repairs were done.
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mark Evans
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions
>
>
> The Pentastar first appeared on Chrysler products in the 1963 model year.
If
> you look at the brochures and promotional materials for '63, you will
likely
> not find the Pentastar. According to what I've read, the Pentastar first
was
> mounted on Dodge Dart, 330, 440, Polara and 880 models in February of
1963.
> I don't show them on Chryslers or Imperials until the 1964 model year.
>
> The dealer also could have installed them on other cars though; a kit was
> available at the time. Indeed, many dealers did install them on Dodges
that
> were sitting on the lots. By 1964, all Chrysler products had the Pentastar
> installed only on the passenger side.
>
> Looking through the 63 parts book, I don't find any references to the
> Pentastar. So, I doubt that your car came with it. You can verify that you
> have an early Pentastar by looking for the appropriate holes. You should
> have a lower 5/32" hole and a 1/8" hole above it. The larger stud should
> have a factory-style speed nut installed on it and the back should be
> splattered with black weatherstripping tar.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mark Evans
> 1963 Imperial Crown Convertible
> http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyImperial/index.html
> 1968 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible
> http://www.imperialclub.org/~maevans/MyPolara/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Alex Ferch
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> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions
>
>
> Thanks! Alex
>
> Don Hudson wrote:
>
> It's supposed to be there and only on the passenger side.
> Don
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Alex Ferch
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> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 61-63 Imp Questions
>
>
>     Evenin' all! There's a gold Chrysler "Pentastar" beneath the Imperial
> script on the right front fender of my 63 Crown. Is this supposed to be
> there? I've seen them on other later year Mopars I've owned but I don't
have
> any Imperials around here to compare to. If it does belong there, should I
> assume there should also be one on the driver's side fender? Thanks in
> advance!
>
> Alex 63 Crown
>
>
>
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