On 11/4/04 6:50 pm, RandalPark@xxxxxxx wrote: > Most automotive designs come out of a CAD program, rather than someone's > imagination or dreams. Just like your computer type did not type that response on its own, all car designs are generated by humans. There are no computer programs that spit out fully realized car designs. But humans work for other humans, who often pay other humans in the form of clinics and focus groups for their opinions, and then again some humans just aren't very imaginative or original. There are also other humans called engineers and lawyers and accountants who have a greater influence on car design now than in the past. But the styling of a car still comes down to a small team of designers. When that designer is left alone (and is good), the result is often cohesive, appealing and timeless, like many of our Imperials, or even some modern cars like a PT Cruiser. When that designer has too many "influences" (including the all-too-common habit now of working for too many different car companies), design distinctions get muddied. And when that designer tries to imprint "heritage" on a brand he's not passionately knowledgeable about, look out! Consider: Freeman Thomas, designer of the Chrysler Crossfire, also penned the Audi TT. Which is why the Crossfire, despite being a previous-generation Mercedes SLK under its over-detailed skin, looks like a TT knockoff. There is no Chrysler DNA in it. Ford's J Mays designed the VW New Beetle and the Thunderbird. Sure, totally different car styles, but park them next to one another and see if the headlamps and taillamps don't look almost interchangeable from car to car! Perfect circles of the exact same size! Bryan Nesbitt designed the PT Cruiser and then left for GM. Wait till you see his one project there, the Chevy HHR, next year! Of course, this is not new. My hero Elwood Engel's early Chrysler work ('64 Imperial) looked a lot like his prior work at Ford ('61 Continental). But his application of the look to an entire corporation was brilliant, and his evolution of it through the years was cohesive and elegant from the topline Imperial to the common Valiant. And his fuselage generation showed he was more than a one-trick pony. I guess it comes down to whose work you like... I think the IMLer who noted that his parents used to say the same thing about new cars of the 60s nailed it. We all have a generation of cars with which we are most intimate. Thankfully we are (nearly) all fortunate enough to have found examples of them to enjoy many years later! Maybe someday we'll be wistfully reminiscing about the cars of today and how distinctive they all seemed compared to our hydrogen-powered personal transport modules of 2040! -- Chris in LA 67 Crown 78 NYB Salon ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm