This is the symptom of a failed master cylinder. I found that new master cylinders are readily available, and have used them now on 3 of my boxcars - all successfully. I also get these from NAPA. Dick Benjamin ----- Original Message ----- From: <Billimp68@xxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: IML: 1968 Imperial Brake Puzzle > List, > > I have a 1968 Imperial Crown Coupe with brake problems, which is not the > usual 67 & 68 caliper or rotor problem, but the pedal, which will sink to the > floor with steady strong pressure. There is no apparent leak in the system, > brakes have been bled, master cylinder has been replaced once from a parts > car, then two other times with rebuilt master cylinders from NAPA. The pedal > will pump up, but with steady pressure on the pedal it will sink to the floor, > with the "check brake" light coming on. The pedal seems to pump up quicker and > stay firm longer with the engine off than on. I would appreciate any > suggestions concerning this problem. > > Bill/Imp, 68's >