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134A and slow leaks



Hoses used on R-12 systems are more porous that those designed for 134A, which has a smaller molecular size than R-12 and will "seep" through even when there is no obvious leaks.  As cheap as 134A is, I agree, just add a can or two when needed if you don't have to go through an entire system change.  And, yes, the Imp's larger condenser, evaporator and system capability helps a lot in the conversion since you only put in about 80% as much 134A when doing a conversion.  In addition, the head pressure is greater in the compressor with 134A.
 
Bob

"aeyn.ricks" <aeyn.ricks@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There is a sealer available at Walmart for 134a and is just mixed into the
refrigerant. cost about $5.

Aeyn
1975 LeBaron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elijah Scott"
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 406A, autofrost, 134A, and dead horses


> --- bom tie wrote:
> > about cost, failures, pitfalls, victories. What is
> > the current cost of R-12? Does the Imp have a
> > condenser so big and a compressor so tough that 134A
> > will not hurt the output from the system?
>
> About four years ago, I converted the A/C system in my
> '71 Imperial to R-134a. The conversion consisted of a
> kit available at any WalMart, K-Mart, etc. for about
> $35. I did not change ANY hardware, but I did have a
> properly working system to begin with.
>
> With probably 20,000 miles of driving and four years,
> the system still works great and will cool down to 42
> degrees on a hot day in the deep South. It's hard to
> ask for better than that. I drove the car from
> Chattanooga, TN, to Carlisle, PA, last year in June,
> and was cool and comfortable all the way.
>
> I do have to add a can of R-134a about two or three
> times a year. This takes about 10 minutes, and at
> about $2.50 a can, isn't much of a drain on the
> wallet. It's a very slow leak that I attribute to
> either a bad o-ring or a hose that slowly seeps.
>
> R-12 is currently about $48 a can where I live. I can
> buy two CASES of R-134a for less than that at Sam's
> Club.
>
> If I had a car with an A/C system that was in good
> shape, but was just a little low, I would stick with
> the R-12. But if the system needs work anyway,
> there's NO loss to be had by changing over to R-134a,> except that your wallet may be a little heavier when
> you're done. ;o)
>
> Elijah
> 1965 Imperial LeBaron
> 1970 Imperial LeBaron
> (3) 1971 Imperial LeBarons
>
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