If you are going to lengthen this part by welding in some bar stock of identical metallurgy please use 312-16L welding rod. This will eliminate your cracking problems and provide the tensile and sheer strength you will need. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: Re: IML: 1973 idler arm conversion problem - Franken-Imperial > Kenyon, a shorter pittman arm would also reduce the motion range of your > steering, so your hesitation is even more justified. > > What type of material is the idler arm out of? Is it cast steel or cast iron? > My guess is cast steel since iron is too brittle. Iron is more tricky to weld, > but steel is not too bad. Second, does it appear that the arm has any special > heat treatment? You may be able to get indications of its heat treatment by > its hardness. If it scrathes real easy with a sharp tool like a screw driver, > its probably just plain soft steel, so the weld heat will not reduce its > strength. At any rate, I can't see why this part would be made out of any high > strength steel. I don't think there is any significant loading in an idler > arm, and its probably alreasy way overdesigned as is. So, my guess is that the > lengthening trick will work. You can ask the welder to make a super beefy weld > that will never brake, but beware that a crack could form in proximity to the > weld. To be in the safe side, after installation and initial checks, check the > arm periodically every 6 months or a year to check for cracks. On the positive > side, most of the steering linkage loading will be at it hihgest during real > slow speeds when parking, which means that an unlikely catastrophic failure > will probably occur at a low risk driving condition. > D^2 > > Quoting kenyon wills <imperialist60@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > Trying to get a matching chrysler pittman arm (assuming for the moment > > that it will fit an imp steering spindle) is a no-go, as those are > > $120, > > > > The other thought that I have is to saw the chrysler arm in two and > > have > > an extension welded in. This being a steering linkage and all, I don't > > like that one much unless the welder can convince me that it will be as > > strong or stronger than the cast arm was to begin with. > > > > > > > > Your thoughts? > > > > >