Hi Hal and All: Just offering my own two cents to say not to let hobbyists who don't 'get' Imperials (or "Forward Look- cars in general) 'get you down'!! I'm continually amazed at how tight of a grip that 'group-think' has on our hobby. Why does everybody have to collect Corvette's, Mustangs and '57 Chevy's? The following is my humble rationale for the 'fin-era' and Exner's 'neo-Classic' themes. Read or skip according to your personal inclination... :-) Exner's Forward-Look generation was designed in the early and mid-1950's, when jets and rockets were the most advanced technology immaginable. Anything 'high- tech' would surely be connected somehow to jets and 'space-travel'. So of course, it was accepted that the "look" of ALL truly advanced technology would be draw upon JET/ROCKET themes. Why? Because it was 'advanced'. But technology changed at 'jet speed' during that decade. It soon became aparent that there was no one single "LOOK of technology" - it simply didn't exist. Industrial designers quickly and uniformally accepted the 'form-follows-function' aesthetic - and they were basically correct... Whilt it sure is cool, it probably is not most efficient for a dashboard to look like a gyroscope. But that DOES NOT mean that Exner's designs were 'wrong,' flawed, short-sighted, or invalid. Indeed, Exner's designs are more ergonimically correct than most other designs of the period. But they were a glorious product of that particular space-in-time, and should be celebrated as such. Sure, by the end of the Sixties, we knew that a flat spoiler perched horizontally across the trunk (and an air dam below the front bumper) would better aid efficiency and stability. But who would have purchased such a car in 1957...? Nobody, that's who! With his (comparatively) lowered front ends, raised tails, and elongated fins, Exner was taking the necessary first steps TOWARD that kind of thinking. It just amazes me that so many critics (amateur AND professional) fail to acknowledge that Exner's were the first contemporary American designs to truly wrestle with the 'form-follows-function' equation. Car design probably changed faster between 1948 and 1958 than at any time before or since. In 1948, although cars had become more 'streamlined', we were still in the era of separate fenders, domed hoods, two- piece windshields (there was still a space for running boards) - the same basic shapes worn by automobiles since the dawn of the 20th century. Just take the 'pure' '57 Forward-Look line for an example... If you take away the fins (<gasp> I know, sacrelige..., I love them too, but just 'go there' with me for a moment), you have the first example of the 'modern' American sedan - long, low and wide; flat hood; slim roofline... It's all there - 3 to 5 years before everybody else in the industry! And what of Exner's 'post-classic' themes of '61 through '63? I think Exner also realized the validity of the form-follows-function concept, but he wanted to do it with some style! His '61-63 Imperial updates both hark back to his 'pure automobile' look of '55- 56, AND presage the 'neo-classical' look that would dominate the industry by the end of the decade - the protruding grille, hood ornaments, padded/textured roof treatments, long-hood/short-deck, landau bars - but Exner did it first!! I've always been especially troubled by those hobbyists who go on and on about how 'outlandish' they find the the length, the chrome and, of course, the fins on our mid-Century Mopars. To my mind, those are all hallmarks of the era. If one doesn't find delight in such things, then why not just get a new, egg- shaped, econobox and leave it at that?! If you want a new car..., go on and buy one! Ahhh..., my first 'styling tirade' of the new year!! I just love the IML - LOL! Enjoy your '63, Hal, and every quirky, distinctive line of it!! Jim Byers 1960 Le Baron Southampton Washington, DC --- Original Message --- From: Hal Coble <hal@xxxxxxxxx> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: IML: 1963 Background >Thanks for the info. That is exactly the type of education I need. Now I >can say that my 63 is like none other because it is between two years that >had clearly defined styles. The pictures and info you have given me are >great also. They only create one problem! I am at work and have to pull >myself away from all of this great info! Thanks again. > >Hal Coble >1963 Crown Imperial Southampton >Georgia > >-----Original Message----- >From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Evans >Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:22 AM >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: IML: 1963 Background > > >Hal, >Glad to have another '63 enthusiast on the list! The source of the 63 >status probably comes from Exner's departure in late '61. He had a heart >attack in '56 as Chrysler was ramping up the design of the '61 cars. '62 and >'63 were the last of the "Forward Look" with their tailfins shaved. '62's >free-standing taillamps harkened back to '55's while '63 even lost that >styling cue. Many show cars of the late 50's hint of the direction Exner >planned for 61 and beyond. For example, here's the '59 Plymouth XNR: > http://www.madle.org/exnr.htm > >In 1961, Elwood Engel took control of styling at Chrysler. In a dramatic >break with the past, Imperial took on design cues from Continental in 1964. >Some feel that, as a transition car, '63 neither had the drama of Exner's >previous cars nor did it have the "modern look" that Engel brought to the >marque. Here's a comparison photo of the '63 Imperial next to a '63 >Continental (sorry if the URL gets split): > >http://www.imperialclub.com/yearbyyear/1963/FactoryPho tos/63-imp-linc-small. >jpg > >Regardless, with its free-standing headlamps and all the interior gadgetry, >you have a fine example of what I consider the best Chrysler offered. I >first fell in love with the '63 upon discovering a green Crown in 1985. I >bought and drove that car until '95 when I sold it to start my search for a >convertible example. I found one in '99 and enjoy the stares I get as people >try to figure out what it is when stop for gas. > >I put a copy of the factory service manual up on the web site at: > http://www.imperialclub.com/yearbyyear/1963/63FSM/index .htm > >Looking like a nice day here in Houston. I'll see if I can figure out how to >get to the latch. > >Again, welcome to the club! >Mark Evans >1963 Imperial Crown Convertible >http://www.io.com/~maevans/MyImperial/index.html >1968 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible >http://www.io.com/~maevans/MyPolara/index.html > > >