The new 1962 bodies were all but finalized in 1960 when Chrysler head Tex Colbert overheard in the lockerroom of a Detroit athletic club that Chevrolet was downsizing for 1962. The auto industry inner circle knew the Ford was introducing a downsized Fairlane for 1962. Colbert thus ordered a complete redoing of the 1962 Plymouth and Dodge Dart - down to the Fairlane and 'new' Chevrolet size. Millions of dollars were spent on overtime to get the 1962 Plymouth/Dart designs down to size, including an attempt to share body pieces with the Valiant/Lancer. Given the cost overuns, there was no money left for new bodies for the Chrysler and Imperial, And as the Dart was shrunk to a 116" wheelbase, Dodge no longer had a car to base its full-size Polara on. So, the 122" wheebase Polara died (the 1960-61 models shared body structure from the front doors forward with the Dart, its outer rear fenders with Dodge wagons, and its rear doors with Plymouth/Dodge wagons). Given the time frame, lack of tooling money, and the demand that the fins had to go, the big question was what to do with Chrysler and Imperial. The 1961 Chrysler fins started at the front doors. which would entail an outlay of cash that just was not there. So, they took the 1961 Dodge Polara, whose fins were only on the rear quarter panels, put the 1961 Chrysler dash and front clip onto it. Now the only problem was to design a rear fender that matched the lower character line on the Polara's rear door. The result was that reverse curve on the 1962 Chrysler rear fender. The 1962 Chrysler used the 1961 Polara trunk lid, lower panel, trunk floor and rear bumper. And, when Chrysler decided to re-introduce a medium-priced Dodge after the 1962 models were introduced, the new "Polara" used the Newport body and put the 1961 Dodge dash and front clip back on the car. Contrary to popular belief, the Custom 880 was a replacement for the 1961 Polara, not DeSoto. The DeSoto was replaced by the Chrysler Newport. The Imperial, though, was the easiest one to change. The 1961 Imperials fins were also only on the rear fenders, so the Mopar design people came up with a finless rear fender along with an update of the 1955-56 taillights. A new grille, and the car was ready to go. The 1963 Chrysler, by the way, was based on the cancelled 1962 Exner designs. But, instead of a totally new body, it was based on the 1960-62 cowl and floorpan. The front fenders, headlight, and grille treatments were toned down, the body sides used flat glass instead of the original curved, the rear fenders' 'chicken wings' were removed, but the roof line was virtually identical. The original 1962 Imperial proposal had the Imperial sharing the Chrysler body, even its 126" wheelbase. The big difference was to have been in the rear fenders, with the Imperial bringing back the 1955-56 taillights. (Picture a 1963 Chrysler with curved side glass, 1964 Chrysler rear window, 1962-3 Plymouth/Dart windshield, 1963 Imperial grille, and 1955-6 taillights on 1963 Newport fenders.) Fortunately, the lack of money gave the unique Imperial body a reprieve. Instead, Chrysler gave Exner the go-ahead to completrly redo the Imperial for 1964. The 1964 Imperial shared the cowl and windshield with the 1963 Imperial, but not the greenhouse. The greenhouse consists of the windows and roofline above the beltline, and in the case of the 1964 Imperial, only the windshield, front quarter panes and the 2-door front door glass was carried over. The roof, rear windows and rear door/quarter glass were all new. The 1964 Impeial was a rather major redesign of the 1957 body. Bill Vancouver, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: TWOinLIC@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Re: IML: 1963 Background and other Exner items Hello All, The photo of the '59 Plymouth XNR also shows the major theme Exner was moving toward after the Forward Look, "the long hood and short deck". The cowl of these new cars was designed to resemble the cowl on a speedboat. 1962 was supposed to be a complete overhaul for the entire Chrysler stable, from Imperial to Plymouth. Almost all of the Forward Look design cues were gone from these new designs. Instead of a completely redesigned fleet, a recession hit ('60/61, I believe) and the plans were scrapped in favor of cost cutting. Chrysler also guessed wrong that Americans wanted smaller cars at this time. All the full sized Plymouths and Dodges were downsized, DeSoto was retired and the remaining full sized cars including Imperial were given face lifts. The only mandatory thing the face lifts had to include was the removal of fins. Exner departs in '61; he referred to the '62's as plucked chickens. Collectible Automobile ran a great article titled "The '62's We Never Saw". I'm not sure the issue as I do not have in front of me now, it's in my place upstate. 1964 finally saw the redesign of Imperial, with the introduction of the first Engel design. But, look closely and the '64 has more in common with the Exner Imperials than not. ( I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers here guys.) '64 has the same cowl and greenhouse as the '57 thru '63's. The first really all new Imperial wouldn't arrive until 1967, although the rest of Chrysler got all new models in 1965. We all know the rest... Happy New Year, John