Dimitrios and the list, It should indeed work regardless of key position as it is a purely vacuum-operated system with no electrical elements. The system runs off the intake manifold (no surprise there), and there is an accumulator tank about the size of a soup can that I am pretty sure is up under the inner fender lip at the right front corner of the engine compartment (symmetrically opposite the windshield washer reservoir). The tubes run over the right front fender arch, across the firewall (with one of the tubes heading down to the back of the intake manifold and then routing back to the firewall. They then travel through different openings through the firewall into the cabin and to the trunk button in the glovebox, then under the dash pad and along the driver-side rocker panel. From there, they follow the left trunk hinge and go across the trunk lid to the release diaphragm. A leak anywhere in all that rubber hose could cause the accumulator to lose its "charge" quickly after the engine is shut off, as could a leaking accumulator or a leaking diaphragm. Chances are you have a very small leak somewhere since the system works with the engine running. A major leak could also cause a rough idle just like any other big vacuum leak. I am fortunate that mine holds a charge for months on end. Once I used it about twenty times with the engine off before it stopped working, and then all it took was a brief run of the engine to restore its function. The ambition and disassembly it would require to troubleshoot all the hoses and such is probably not worth the effort if you can live happily with it working only while the engine is running. Then again, it might be worth inspecting the hoses at the more obvious and visible places, like near the trunk hinge where the hose has to flex every time the trunk lid is opened. By the way, it's covered in the Body and Frame section of the FSM, and with pretty good pictures. The text in my '67 manual says that the accumulator is mounted at the rear of the engine but the diagram pretty clearly shows it where I described it. If you'd like, I'll take a look at my car this week and report back. (And thanks to Dave Brown for the news that the pre-'67 unit was electric... ya learn something new every day!) Cheers, Chris in LA dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Chris, are you sure it operates with the engine off? My 68 LeBaron has the > same vacuum operated unit, but it will not release with the engine off. The > only way I can see yours working with the engine off is if there is an > accumulator that provides vacuum for a while (and on my car its leaking or > something). But even then, it will only work a few minutes after the engine > is off...