82 Imp EFI won't start/run

[Chad Brown <clutchfan2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not up on California's fascist emissions laws I'm
afraid, LOL. Here in SE Michigan, we can run whatever
we want..you could stuff a 426 Hemi into an '81-83 Imp
and the state of Michigan couldn't care less. I guess
that's the price you guys pay for the nice weather out
there.

--- Brian Collinsworth <aprtay@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Straight out of the Mopar performance catalog
> "Purchaser must sign purchase
> agreement stating engines are for off road vehicles
> only". Crate engines
> will not pass california emissions.
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Brown" <clutchfan2001@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 82 Imp EFI won't start/run
> 
> 
> > Paul,
> > Why not check into a Mopar Performance crate
> engine?
> > They have 360's rated at 300 hp and 380 hp, and
> they
> > come with warranties. I think the 300 hp version
> is
> > around $3000, but you'd pay that or near that to
> get a
> > quality remanufactured 318 or have yours rebuilt
> to
> > stock specs, and you're still stuck with an anemic
> > engine. The 360 will bolt right in, too. As far as
> > emissions, I don't know, but I'd think a brand new
> > engine from Chrysler should meet smog
> requirements.
> > Put a decent dual exhaust on it with dual cats,
> that
> > should do it.
> >
> > --- Dick Benjamin <DickB@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > You'll get a lot of advice about engine swaps
> for
> > > these cars.  I am unaware
> > > of anything with double the HP that would fit
> and
> > > would pass our friendly
> > > smog specs.  I too suffer with our Southern
> > > California smog rules.
> > >
> > > Dick Benjamin
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul A. Feeney <paFeeney@xxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: IML: 82 Imp EFI won't start/run
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Dick,
> > > >
> > > > I think I'll take your advise on the
> compression
> > > check before I invest any
> > > > more time/money into the car. If the motor is
> bad,
> > > I'll probably just yank
> > > > it out and replace with something a little
> more
> > > "fun". 135HP doesn't sound
> > > > too good to me. This would be such a nice
> highway
> > > cruiser with about 250HP
> > > > or more. Nobody likes to get tailgated by kids
> in
> > > Hondas covered with
> > > > stickers after all. Have you heard of anyone
> doing
> > > an engine swap into one
> > > > of these cars? Keep in mind that I'm in So.
> > > California, so it will HAVE TO
> > > > pass smog. (we're cool on engine swaps as long
> as
> > > the engine is newer than
> > > > the car, and 100% of the smog for the engine
> > > follows into the car,
> > > including
> > > > diagnostics).
> > > >
> > > > I'll check, and probably change the oil
> tonight.
> > > At the very least I would
> > > > guess that the cylinders are getting "washed"
> with
> > > gas at this point.
> > > You're
> > > > right on when you said I'm getting too much
> fuel.
> > > That's why checking the
> > > > pumps/filters hasn't been a priority for me.
> > > >
> > > > I'll check all the connections, take them
> apart,
> > > clean them with
> > > electronic
> > > > parts cleaner, apply a little dielectric
> grease
> > > and re-connect checking
> > > > continuity on the pins. I don't mind doing
> this
> > > type of work, as long as I
> > > > only have to do it once (do it right the first
> > > time).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the info, I may check a lot
> of
> > > this tonight and report my
> > > > findings in the morning.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dick Benjamin" <DickB@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: IML: 82 Imp EFI won't start/run
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > These make great daily drivers, as they are
> > > superbly comfortable and
> > > quiet
> > > > > on the road, and get very good mileage. 
> What
> > > they are not, though, is
> > > > > performers.  The are very slow off the line,
> > > with the 2:20 rear end, and
> > > > > 4500 pounds being pulled by a 135 HP engine.
> > > Once you get them rolling,
> > > > > however, they will cruise all day at 75 and
> give
> > > you 22 MPG or better
> > > > doing
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can make a good air cleaner gasket with
> > > closed cell foam, as used in
> > > > > weather-strip (it must be closed cell foam,
> > > however, anything else will
> > > > let
> > > > > the air sneak in there without passing the
> air
> > > flow sensor.  This drives
> > > > the
> > > > > computer mad!
> > > > >
> > > > > The EFI is throttle body injection, with 4
> > > nozzles feeding 2 cylinders
> > > > each
> > > > > at low flow rates, and 4 more chiming in for
> > > more fuel demand.  The
> > > > nozzles
> > > > > are controlled by fuel pressure, with the
> low
> > > flow nozzles opening below
> > > > 20
> > > > > PSI and the higher flow coming on stream
> above
> > > that.  This function is
> > > > > entirely controlled by pressure operated
> > > mechanical plungers in the
> > > > > plumbing - no electronics involved at all
> here.
> > > The system monitors
> > > RPM,
> > > > > throttle position, fuel and air flow,
> > > temperature of fuel, air and
> > > > coolant,
> > > > > time since startup, the O2 content of the
> > > exhaust, fuel pressure, brake
> > > > > pedal position, ignition key position and
> > > perhaps the phase of the moon,
> > > > and
> > > > > compares this data with pre-programmed and
> > > memory data to set the flow
> > > of
> > > > > fuel.  The computer is basically an analog
> in -
> > > analog out device, so it
> > > > is
> > > > > not much like our modern digital controlled
> > > devices at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no provision for on board
> diagnostics.
> > > The dealers were
> > > supplied
> > > > > with a test set, which is little more than
> an
> > > box full of switches and
> > > > > meters.   Some on the IML have this device,
> but
> > > I have not bothered with
> > > > > one, as I can learn quite a bit about what
> is
> > > going on with normal test
> > > > > equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chrysler dealers sometimes have parts, more
> > > often you have to run your
> > > > needs
> 
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