Demolition Derby - Sorry I Can't join you on the high road

[Thad <gentrysgarage@xxxxxxxxx>]

Bob,Bob,Bob After seeing what they did to a 30K
original you still defend these guys?
> Just got the parts off
> a 30,000 mile car the other day thats headed to the
> track,  Tryed to buy the
> whole car,  but to late. Hate to see a beautiful car
> go that way. But he
> ownes it and all i can do is offer. At least the
> parts were saved.  Just my
> 2 cents.
I know of a demo guy who was heading to Cali to buy a
rust free Imperial complete and 1967 9 passenger Town
and Country from the rust country! He wasn't
interested in using the rusty stuff as it was too weak
to last in a derby, but rather specified a perfect non
rusty vehicles. Luckily his car broke down on his way
here and the deal passed. Sorry boys God protected
those two cars from the ____s but most are not lucky!I
have also watched with disgust as 2 demo guys
gleefully destroyed 1965 T'bird and a 67 Cad in the
same day with sawsalls and sledge hammers, I had to
ask them why they were so happy laughing as they
shattered the windows and drove spikes through the
perfect doors, they said it was the best part and
asked if I wanted to take a couple of swings. I tell
you when I said hell no they looked as if I had told
them to stop throwing food at a food fight. So yah
cheer them on turn the other cheek while they kick you
in the balls. I just hope you guys are made of money
so you can buy those increasingly rare body parts they
are wrecking in the arenas. I cannot join you on the
high road to oblivion. Brad if you give them money
they have more money to buy another car to wreck, its
just like the guy on eBay who bought a 57 Imp for the
motor (as I understand they had a rust problem <its on
the IML site>) from a A car. Sorry guys I can't join
you on this one.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Hogg" <roadhogg@xxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: IML: Demolition Derby - Let's take the
> high road
> 
> 
> > I agree 100%! The fact is, there are a lot of cars
> that are just too far
> > gone to be anything but parts. In an ideal world,
> I think derby guys and
> > restorers would work together because the derby
> guys could stand to make
> > alot of money from their parts that most often,
> currently, get scrapped. I
> > know it is a rarity but there ARE derby guy who
> have a heart and will not
> > derby a good car. I know one here and I have
> gotten some nice stuff (for
> > cheap) from him. I would like to see the
> restoration world develop a
> > relationship with the derby world (as unpalatable
> as that may sound)
> because
> > that relationship could prove to be mutually
> beneficial in a big way.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ImpSvcs@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:23 AM
> > Subject: IML: Demolition Derby - Let's take the
> high road
> >
> >
> >        I don't wish to open a lengthy debate on
> the use of Imperials for
> > other than enjoyment or restoration, I would just
> like to throw out some
> > ideas of how to deal with something we can't
> change.
> >
> >        I'm afraid that if you search the "Parts
> for Sale" section of the
> web
> > site, there are many parts that are for sale that
> were pulled from
> Imperials
> > headed for the Demolition Derby.  I bought what
> was supposed to be a 413
> > (turned out to be a 361) from a gentleman in
> Wisconsin on my return trip
> > from
> > Iowa when I picked up my '63.  He is connected
> with the people on the
> listed
> > link.  I don't remember for sure, but it seems
> like I got the lead for the
> > engine from the IML.
> >
> >        Anyway, there was a '64 in his barn being
> prepared for Demo Derby.
> > The car was pretty well rusted, with previous body
> damage, and most all of
> > the good trim and stuff had been removed.  We
> talked about Imperial parts,
> > and it seemed that they were selling the parts
> from the cars that they
> were
> > to Demo.  He did say that there are large stashes
> of Imperial parts around
> > from cars that had been Demo'd in the past.  I'll
> contact the guy and see
> if
> > I can locate some of those.
> >
> >        Sad as it is, this has been popular for a
> long time.  The up side
> is
> > that many, if not most tracks now forbid the use
> of Imperials for regular
> > Demo Derby use.  The fellow explained that the '64
> he was preparing was
> for
> > an "Unlimited" class, that is only run
> occasionally and had quite a large
> > payout.
> >
> >        As much as it pains us all, there is no way
> to stop the use of
> these
> > cars for Demolition Derby.  The market value of
> these cars in deteriorated
> > conditions makes them prime candidates for Demo
> Derby, or as drivetrain
> > donors for hot rods and race cars.  I bought my
> '68 out from under a racer
> > who was going to pull the 440 and transmission for
> a drag car and scrap
> the
> > 47,000 mile body.   I think the '63 would have
> seen a similar fate,
> probably
> > the Demo Derby.  I paid less than $1000 for each
> of these cars.
> >
> >        On the positive side of things, I think we
> can do the following:
> >
> >        1.  Contact as many Demo Derby contestants
> as possible, and locate
> > any
> > Imperial parts available, before they end up being
> scrapped.  Put them up
> on
> > the IML.  Put them on eBay.  Put them in your
> basement.  Just save them
> from
> > the scrap yard.
> >
> >        2.  Consider sending older deteriorated
> Imperials to the reputable
> > Mopar parts yards like Murray Park in Ohio, rather
> than selling them for
> > bottom dollar.  There are other yards like
> Murray's all over the country.
> > This will keep parts available to those who need
> them, and help support
> > people like Murray, who support people like us.
> >
> >        3.  Offer up stripped bodies to the Demo
> Derby guys.  I've seen
> more
> > than one Imperial that has been parted, and not
> much more than the frame
> and
> > body are left... this is exactly what the Demo
> guys are looking for.
> >
> >        4.  Get the word out to members when you
> find distressed cars for
> > sale.  Better for someone on the list to control
> the fate of the car than
> > let
> > it go to someone who may not share our passion.
> >
> >        Maybe I'm still suffering from years of
> Corporate Brainwashing, but
> > it
> > seems like this is the perfect opportunity to
> implement ideals that were
> > nothing more than buzz-words like "Win-Win",
> "Synergy", "Networking", and
> > best of all, "Recycling".
> >
> > My $.02 worth
> > Steve Charette
> >
> >
> >
> >