If the shoes wern't changed, this is most likely the problem. One or more of the linings may be coming loose from the shoe. I had some from one of my 60's that looked ok at first, but looking closer revealed a couple that were coming unstuck. John Maxiudo Ulrich wrote: > dear hugh: > > i write in response to: > > >Max: I still have an unpleasant vibration when i'm stopping. very > >UNimperial. > > > >Can you tell us a little more about the vibration? Are you absolutely > > >sure it is from the brakes. These cars can play mean tricks on you. > > >There are some struts going forward from the front suspension to just > > >inside the bumpers. The have a rubber bushing which can deteriorate >and > >cause all sorts of wobblies you can blame on the brakes. Even if >you have > >had the front end rebuilt, this element sometimes gets >overlooked. Its > >just a thought. > > i'll be happy to describe it. and thanks for the thought. i'm not sure > what it is. > > it happens when i'm applying the brakes at any speed. it was worse before > the rear hubs were changed out. > > i'm no mechanic, but i have a pretty good one that's done the restoration of > my '62. he started with the brakes. apparently, it didn't look like the > rear hubs had ever been removed. they were a bear to get off. my mechanic > had a special tool built to remove the hubs, got in there and learned that > it was pretty much a mess. he did what he could to clean and service it, > but after everything was put back together, the car had a terrible "shudder" > and increasing "vibration" when the brakes were applied. my mechanic > swapped out the "like new" hubs from my parts imperial, and that helped a > lot. > > the current vibration appears at any speed when the brakes are applied. its > like you can feel a circle turning, getting to a certain point, and hitting > a "bump". the vibration is cyclic in nature and causes the whole car to > "lurch" forward and backward when the braking cycle reaches the "bump". its > really annoying. when it gets to the top of the "bump" crest, it also feels > a little like the brakes are braking away. like a roller coaster coming > into the station, catching the track brakes along the way, throwing the > thrill-seeker back and forth, back and forth. > > we'll take a look at these bushings that you're talking about. i thought > that the whole front end had been rebuilt, but maybe something has been > overlooked. > > i've been following the discussions on switching to a dual master cylinder > as well. again, my mechanical knowledge is sorely limited, but before my > '62 i owned a '63 newport coupe. i'll never forget the day that its brakes > failed while i was approaching a busy intersection where i had to make a 90 > degree left or right when i had the red light. i must have had just enough > brake juice to slow the car down a little more, then i threw it into a slide > and used the gas to grab the break-away back end, navigate the turn and get > me into a flat neighborhood where i decided to have a drink at a friend's > house and wait for the tow truck. using the emergency brake never dawned on > me, and given my limited understanding of the parking brake "clamping > system" on these '62 imperials, i'm not sure that i'd be helping my cause > trying to fool with the parking brake if the main brakes fail. anyone ever > try this? > > i'd be interested in knowing any successful '62 conversions to a better > master cylinder. i realize that these cars were carefully designed and that > thoughtful drivers really have no problems, but i've got mountains with no > guard rails that i love to drive around. if i can inconspicuously improve > the braking system to lessen my odds of a catastrophic failure, then i > probably should. as much as i like the mountains and trees, i don't want to > blend into them with my imperial. > > thanks for all the thoughts. > > imperial regards, > > max > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >