----Original Message Follows---- From: KerryPinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: IML: 440 vac leak?? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:16:59 -0800 (PST) >>Well, I'm approaching stumped. My 73 runs like crap and I've messed with it til I'm about out of ideas. Here are a couple of .02 cent ideas: 1) JUST because the floats are set correctly doesn't mean that they are not leaking. With the car running and that choke open,look down the carbs' throat and see if you see gas dripping down into the venturis. Holley makes Viton tipped float needle and seats which seem to seal better with todays bogus gas. Both my Holley 750cfm 4160-3310's have 'em....on my Imp and my RV. 2) If your secondaries are stuck open slightly...even cracked open just a little bit,you are gonna get a car that runs like cr*p also. You can adjust till you are blue in the face,but if they are open... 3) If you have Champions in there,throw 'em in the stove. 4) With the car running(or barely running),disconnect each plug-wire from the cap,note any RPM changes....then plug it back in. Work your way around the cap. If you disconnect one...and it makes no RPM difference,you found a dead one. If you don't lean against the fender or touch any part of the car when doing this,chances are you won't get 25,000 volts running thru you temporarily...hehehe. (I always get *zapped* no matter what. Maybe I drink too much H20...lol.) 5) Intake/Valley-Pan gaskets CAN leak in the lower area...and will suck crankcase vapors from the cam/lifter galley area and into the bottom of the intake-ports. My 440 RV had that problem...and was impossible to check for unless I removed the intake manifold. The Valley-Pan gaskets are easy to replace. I wrote a detailed posting on replacing them a while back. >Oh, one piece of good news is that my 'ticking' sound was a bad exhaust manifold which has now been replaced. You replaced the left side exhaust manifold??? Yer the MAN. I think I'll bring my RV down to you so you can fix those too. :o) Steve from Albany,N.Y. '75 Imp 4dr <--taking the bottom lip of the new rear pads to the grinder. '79 440 powered 35 ft RV <--19 in of vac at idle. 0-60 in 29.5 sec. _______________________________________________________________________ Here are the symptoms: Timing set at 10 degrees BTDC with the Vac adv disconnected and plugged. Vac gauge shows about 17, it used to be about 20. I have adjusted on the carb and timing and made little change in the vac. i have disconnected and plugged ALL vac lines with NO change on the vac guage. The car runs right now as well as it's run recently WITH THE BREATHER OFF. With the breather on it is very FLAT at high RPM and has a slight bog if you punch it at idle. Turning the breather lid upside down and letting more air in helps but not as much as removing the breather completely. Vacumm leak you say. I've tried the starter spray, propane trick and get no RPM or engine noise change. Compression is 130 per cyl. Now for the interesting stuff, under some conditions of timing, I can screw the idle jets all the way in and the car still runs which makes me think vacuum leak. Also the car will not idle down below about 600 RPM even with the screw completly backed out. Plugs are about a year old but probably don't have a 1000 miles on the, same with wires, rotor button, and cap. Cap does not show signs of damage or wear. At this point, the only think I can think of is that there is a vacuum leak around the intake manifold, probably on the bottom where I can't get to it. Before I pull it off, I'd like to hear from the wisdom of the group. Oh, one piece of good news is that my 'ticking' sound was a bad exhaust manifold which has now been replaced. Kerryp _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx