> This is a new one on me, Mike. Why don't you try it Why Dick, if I didn't know better I'd say you were making fun of my suggestion! *grin* I had a good laugh (at my expense) at your email, nonetheless, the physics of my idea are sound (Dimitris, help me here!). If the car is level, the rod might hang at a downward angle of, say, 60 degrees. If you rotate the car (not using a rotisserie, but by parking on the side of a hill or jacking up the side of the car) by 10 or 15 degrees, you have just decreased gravity's pull on the rod to 9.8*[sin(60-10)] [assuming 10 degrees rotation] That may be just enough for the aforementioned grease to hold the rod, or for the rod to slide out less quickly, enabling Mr. Frustrated Mechanic to get the pump up in time. :-P ===== --Mike Pittinaro Christmas is over now So I'm changing my haiku Thank you, David Brown __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/