Fellow Imperial enthusiasts: I completely agree with Allen. This is a list for Imperial owners and enthusiasts that are committed to preserving these cars foremost. It is important that with the large number of subscribers that we do not stray off topic a great deal, but let's face it: they put AFB's on both Imperials and Lincoln Continentals along with numerous other examples back then and the problems are not necessarily indicative of the marque alone! I would think that such speech that closely pertains to Imperials would be permitted if not encouraged without recourse from an Impcop as with the case of Roy. I was somewhat offended by the actions that have brought about this discussion. I went as far as to send Roy a message telling him of my feelings and asking him to overlook the shortsightedness on the part of whomever it was that chastised him earlier. It seems to me that if the guards continue this trend, that we risk the possibility of losing yet more knowledgeable old car buffs that have been there and can help us all. I can't blame Roy for picking up his marbles and going home at this point. I feel compelled to and justified in asking for the Impcop in question to publicly apologize to Roy and to resign effective immediately. Well, now that I have voiced my opinion as well I hope I can find someone to hide me in their attic until the streets are safe again. Dave Knight >From: bandmgrinding@xxxxxxxx >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: IML: Impcop/other topics >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:15:59 -0500 > >Hi Guys > To the Impcop, don't you think you came down a little hard on Roy for >mentioning that " the other car" had the same problem. He was probably >just using that example because that is what he is most familiar with. I >think that by losing him as part of the group we will be losing someone >with a lot of mechanical experience and knowledge that could benefit a >lot of us in the group. While I am not advocating bringing up or talking >about other subjects or cars, I think that we could all learn from >comparisons and experience with other cars. Also, it might be a great way >to come up with some interchanges and modifications to parts that will >then fir our Imperials. Also, I for one find it interesting to see what >other Imperial owners have driven and are driving or working on and I >agree that any discussion of same should be taken private or to another >group that would be better served by the information but if we are not >allowed to even compare or mention another car name or make , items like >the production figures of other cars, or even our sign offs should not >include anything else but our Imperial only. This would seem a little >silly to me but I am willing to abide by the rules . > > Thanks for the time to speak my peace. > > Allan R. > 1962 Imperial Conv > >On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:18:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) "Roy Braatz" ><braatz@xxxxxxx> writes: > > Unvaryingly I like and appreciate all makes of cars, and not just > > Chrysler > > and seance that's my feeling. I believe, I may be in the wrong > > "group or > > club" ! > In that case I feel I also need to resign my membership. Good >luck > > to the > > Impcop's ROY= 1957 Crown Imperial Convt. > > -------Original >Message------- > > > From: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: >Friday, January 25, 2002 03:38:58 AM > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: IML: Poor gas mpg > > To help people understand and clarify >on topic and off topic items. > Carter carbs are universal to most makes >of cars. It is very simple > > to > talk about Carter Carb's in a generic sense without starting a > > thread > about how my Chevy does this and how my Ford is better than my > > > Chevy, > etc. Get the drift? If not, don't post until you are sure what >list > > you > are on. > > Impcop > > Roy Braatz wrote: > > > > Most all >Crater use the same type and but different sizes, what > I've done over >the years is buy junk looking ones at a swap meet > for a couple of >dollars just to get the rods but have used them or > given them out. I >could mention how to adjust your's or check them > , but was informed >that I cant use another make of car to explain > or compare with. As I >did last time mentioning the word corvette > Op sorry. Chrysler only. > >-------Original Message------- > > From: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Date: Thursday, January 24, 2002 06:25:38 PM > To: >mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: IML: Poor gas mpg > Roy, you >don't happen to know where you find other metering rods > > to try do >you? > > Tristan > > > I thought to mention beside the rear end gears, >to think about > what your CARTER AFB metering rods size is! Owners that >are > second or third owners of their car need to wonder if the carb > >ever was rebuilt and if so were the right metering rods > reinstalled in >THAT carb. You need to understand that two brass > metering rods are >lifted out of the fuel jet HOLES as you step > on the gas and has to be >correct for performance. The jet holes > that the metering rods go >through are stander size for that > carb, but the rod thickness depend on >engine size and HP. Think > of it this way , if the jet hole is always >the same size .A > thinner rod increases fuel flow 1. ( to much -fouling >plugs,dark > smoke car can feel like it lugging and can Diesel do to >carbon > build up) .To thick a rod ( plugs run hot, engine runing > >hotter,no power, pinging, stuttering) I found my 57 doing the > second. >like the three bears you need to try different ones to > get it just >RIGHT.Early Corvettes have Carter's and the same > condition to deal >with. > roy 57 > > > > >____________________________________________________ > > IncrediMail - >Email has finally evolved - Click Here > > > > ----------------- >http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- > This message was sent to >you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please > reply to >mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be > shared with >everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the > Administrators >should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to >http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm > > . > >