Re: IML: '61 Imperial NON-A/C Heater Hose Routing

["Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I have looked through the FSM and the photos cut off
just at the area that I want to see! But it shows the hot
side hose sorta stretched over the top area of the
fenderwell to the heater valve in the firewall. Well, I'll
keep watch for the underhood shots on ebay and all else.
Rob.


On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:22:47 -0500
 PAUL WENTINK <randalpark@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>I checked the hose routing on my '63 which doesn't have
>A/C. I believe that 1961 would be similar or the same.
>
>The heater hose that fastens to the water pump closest to
>the radiator hose goes around the carb on the driver's
>side and connects to the heater at the fire wall. The
>other hose goes from the water pump, over the alternator,
>through the bracket on the alternator, then towards the
>passenger's side front fender, fastens to the inner fender
>with a plastic "tie", and connects to the heater valve.
>There is another hose that goes between the valve and the
>remaining heater fitting.
>
>On the A/C cars, both hoses from the water pump route over
>the alternator through a larger bracket, along the
>passenger's side of the car, and to their connections at
>the heater. I didn't check, but I believe that they also
>are attached to the right inner fender panel with a
>plastic "tie".
>
>The original "tie" on the '63 has a "bullet" end which
>presses through a single hole in the fender well to hold
>it in place. I didn't check the FSM's for these cars, but
>I think the FSM shows the proper routing for both A/C and
>non A/C cars.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>Paul W.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PAUL WENTINK <randalpark@xxxxxxx>
>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 6:14 pm
>Subject: Re: IML: '61 Imperial Heater Hose Clamp?
>
>
>All of my '60s Imperials have the heater hose bracket on
>the alternator. My '63 is the only one that does not have
>a/c. I will try to remember to open the hood and look at
>the hoses when I am there tomorrow. I believe the non-a/c
>cars heater hoses are routed differently near the right
>inner fender than are the cars with factory air. 
> 
>Paul W. 
> 
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Joe Strickland <jwstrick426@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>To: Imperial Mail List <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 7:41 am 
>Subject: IML: '61 Imperial Heater Hose Clamp? 
> 
>Rob; 
> 
>I spent some time looking at images of '61 Imperials on
>the club website that display the engine compartment.  My
>Imperial is a '62 and has a bracket that supports the
>heater hoses at the alternator.  In looking at the '62
>pictures it appears that there is no similar bracket on
>the '61 models.  There is one picture shown of a '61 at 
> 
>http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1961/SilvermanLeBaron/Engine.jpg ;
> 
>There are a few other '61s shown and none of them have the
>bracket that my '62 has.  There are also pictures of '60
>models that can be found from the "by year" link on the
>club website.  I spotted one photo that 
>showed a case with the two heater hoses secured to the
>fender well with a plastic restraining strap similar to
>what I have seen on '70s era Chryslers and Imperials.  I
>think the illustrations of the '61 models on the website
>are representative of that year as being different from
>the '62 and later models.  I believe that the hose routing
>and presence or lack of brackets is the same on both AC
>equipped and non-AC cars.  I saw two different ways to
>secure the hoses, one with an aluminum strap and one that
>appears to be some sort of black clamp that went around
>the two hoses, but did not appear to be attached to the
>alternator.  Perhaps a few more '61 Imperial owners can
>check their cars and respond. 
> 
>It appears that the Imperials of that era did not secure
>the two heater hoses to the fender well.  The possible
>reason for this may be that the engineers wanted to spread
>out any flexing of the hoses over as large a length of
>hose as possible to keep frequent flexing from engine rev.
>changes from stressing the hoses to a minimum. 
> 
>Joe 
> 
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