RE: IML: keeping the original Carter carburetor

["Kristian Oyen" <kandkoyen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Frank,
 
I second your conclusions on the subject of keeping the original Carter
carburetor. I have never had significant problems with Carters on the many
Imperials I've owned. I even replaced the Holley that came on my '69 with a
Carter as soon as I bought it in 1972. I taught myself to rebuild my own
Carters using patience and the detailed instructions, then took the cars to
my mechanic for final adjusting.

Kristian Oyen

!963 Imperial Crown Southampton 4-door
1966 Imperial Crown Sedan
1967 Imperial Crown Coupe 

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[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Griffin
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:37 PM
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Subject: Re: IML: The Slow Rebirth of My 1960 Imperial/ Carb


Edelbrock makes a good carb but the Carter on my 61 performs just fine. If
the original carb is swapped out please don't junk it. Its worth it to
someone to rebuild it. Once the original is gone its gone forever. If you
don't like rebuilding carbs there  are places you can send your original
that will recondition it with the correct parts and tune it to your engines
specifications. You simply bolt your original back on and your good to go,
and its nice when you don't have to change linkage setups to make your carb
work. I never had any problems with the original carbs.
                                  Frank
                              
chuck milverton <chuck_milverton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

	Jim, Do yourself a favor and junk the factory carb - my experience
is that they are totally unreliable even if you rebuild them. Also , stay
away from new Holleys - a pain in the keaster. My best result has been with
Edelbrock after market new.
	
	Chuck
	
	JIM LORENZEN <jdlpdx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

		Hi everyone -
		 
		Thought I'd bring the group up to date on my Imperial's
transition from barn fixture to living breathing (and God knows gas
drinking) automobile. 
		A week ago Sunday I went out to the "Rust Farm" to bring my
baby home.  Gary was all ready with the tilt bed and I got busy getting it
running to drive it to position to be loaded.  I came armed with a new Group
27 battery, coil, new plug and coil wires and various fluids.  I rigged a
new fuel supply system by stealing my lawnmower's 2 gallon gas can, 4 feet
of rubber fuel line and a new clamp; running the hose from the can's place
between the grille and radiator support to the fuel pump.  I pulled the
plugs, hooked up the battery and ran the starter for about 2 minutes
sporatically to get the oil flowing in the engine.  I then reinstalled the
plugs, swapped out the coil (the old one was leaking oil out of the tower)
and plug wires crossed my fingers, gave her a dose of Starting Fluid and
turned the key.  Nothing.  We tried it again and on the third attempt - my
creature came alive!  The lifters took a few minutes to quiet down, but
there was no blue smoke out the pipes.  It wasn't long before the auto choke
kicked down and she settled down to a nice quiet, even idle.  Even the
guages were working.  The transmission was a little more reluctant but after
a while even that got with the program.  I then got behind the wheel and
drove her over to the tilt bed shut her off and loaded her up and we headed
for Portland with lots of stares and finger pointing along the way. About 45
minutes later (Gary doesn't mess around behind the wheel - it usually take
me an hour to make the trip) we pulled into the alley beside my house,
unloaded her and I started her up and gingerly backed her into the garage.
I say gingerly as one system that definately did NOT come back to life were
the brakes.  Needless to say the push buttons on the transmission got quite
a workout.
		Last Thursday, armed with a new master brake cylinder I
attempted to correct the braking issue.  I replaced the master cylinder and
attempted to bleed the brakes but all in all I pretty much wasted my time.
The lines are hopelessly clogged and corroded as I pretty much though they
would be.  My next main project is to replace all the lines and wheel
cylinders when the weather gets a little warmer (I'ts supposed to snow
tonight here).
		On a lark, I decided to see what the engine was up to so I
reconnected the battery, gave the gas pedal three slow trips to the floor
turned the key..... and she fired right up - with silent lifters and no
smoke.  The transmission was back to normal too - at least as far as
response goes.  Naturally with no brakes I haven't had the guts to go around
the block to see how the upshifts are doing, but I'm hopefull.
		Later this week I'll replace all the fluids and drop the gas
tank which thanks to this group I now know how to drain.
		Just before today's sunset, I gave her a much deserved and
much needed bath and I must say she cleaned up pretty good.
		At some point in the future I'll send this story along with
some of the many pictures I taken of this project along to the website, but
for now, I'm feeling pretty good about the whole thing.
		One interesting sidelight out of working on this car again
is pain, or should I say the lack of it and memory.  I have been all over
and under this car in the past two weeks doing things that when working on
my other cars and with my arthritic back usually lays me up at least a coupe
of days.  Also I spent a lot of time working on this car when I was in my
early twenties and a lot of time has passed since then.  Interestingly
enough when working on her this past week, my poor old brain was able to
recall what size sockets and wrenches went with what bolt and nut.  I
couldn't tell you what I had for breakfast yesterday, but I remembered the
bolt at the top of the master cylinder cover took a 7/16th box.  Now I know
we tend to make a lot of claims for our cars in this group and I'm not quite
ready to say that with this Imperial I've found the Fountain of Youth,  but
when I'm working on her I'm thinking better and in much less pain than I
experience doing simular things on other projects.
		But enough of that.  More to come when time, money and
progress permitts.
		 
		Thanks for letting me rattle on
		 
		Jim L. in OR


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