RE: IML: CALIPERSONLINE

["Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>]

Someone who says he has "LOTS" of parts for these braking systems is
probably thinking of the much more common disc brake calipers used on the
lesser and later cars.  Make sure he is talking about the Budd brakes before
you send money.  I would be surprised to find anyone other than Lowell Howe
with "LOTS" of these.

Dick Benjamin

-----Original Message-----
From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Strohmeyer
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:05 AM
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: IML: CALIPERSONLINE

I just talked to Mark at calipersonline 
http://www.calipersonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=36  He 
says he has LOTS of rebuilt calipers for my 67 Imperial and others. His 
calipers are stainless steel sleeved and have a lifetime warranty when 
ordered in pairs. He was nice and very helpful and i highly recommend him.

Give him a call at 810-278-5865

Chris
67 Imperial convertibleStrohmeyer
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> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>
>
>> Oh, ok. Got it. I'll buy a tranny gasket before I take this on. While I 
>> have your knowledge, the kickdown adjusting screw may be leaking too. 
>> Does the threaded shaft have to come out or is there an o ring just under

>> the nut?
>>
>> Thx for your help,
>> ChrisOriginal Message ----- 
From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak


> Hi Chris,
> There is no seal on the kickdown adjusting screw. If it is seeping oil, I 
> just use a little Teflon white sealer on the threads when I reins
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>
>>
>>> You'll never get it out far enough to get at the o-ring with the 
>>> tailshaft in place. I suppose you could take all the bolts out of the 
>>> tailshaft and rotate it around so that the ear was no longer blocking 
>>> the shaft. I'd be concerned about the gasket then between the case and 
>>> the tailshaft leaking.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Stevan,
>>>>
>>>> If the o ring is 1/4" in from the end, and I can move it 1/2" to the 
>>>> ear blocking it, what prevents me from replacing it right there?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>> The tailshaft must come off as the shaft exits out the back of the 
>>>>> case. The o-ring is just a standard one that you can buy at any parts 
>>>>> store. Just bring the old one along and compare. If you buy a seal and

>>>>> gasket package for your transmission (there is several other gaskets 
>>>>> you'll need anyway) there will be one in that kit. I use ATP brand at 
>>>>> my shop.
>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx Stevan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't that mean I could change the o ring without pulling the 
>>>>>> tailshaft? is the oring a standard one i could get at any auto store?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:12 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>> That ear on the tailshaft prevents the shaft from working it's way 
>>>>>>> out of the back of the transmission case so it is necessary to be 
>>>>>>> there. The o-ring is about 1/4" from the end of the shaft so like I 
>>>>>>> mentioned earlier the shaft doesn't have to completely be removed to

>>>>>>> replace the o-ring. Make sure you lube the o-ring up good when 
>>>>>>> reinstalling the shaft so that it doesn't get damaged on the case 
>>>>>>> edge. It's a fairly tight fit in the case and through the servo and 
>>>>>>> strut arm.
>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:17 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx  Stevan and Dave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The shaft end looks to be blocked only by a useless ear of the 
>>>>>>>> tailshaft. It appears like the designers put it there by accident 
>>>>>>>> which prevents me from sliding the shaft rearward no more that 
>>>>>>>> about 1/2" . I wonder if the o ring is within 1/2" of the end?  Is 
>>>>>>>> the shaft stationary or does it move on it's axis or forward and 
>>>>>>>> aft?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx guys,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 67 Imperial Convertible
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>> What you have leaking is the O-ring on the end of the shaft that 
>>>>>>>>> the low-reverse servo arm pivots on. You can change this without 
>>>>>>>>> trans removal but it takes a little work. You'll have to remove 
>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft. Remember there is a snap ring under the cover that 
>>>>>>>>> is now hidden by the rear transmission mount. The pan and valve 
>>>>>>>>> body will also have to be removed. You can then take a long punch 
>>>>>>>>> from the inside of the case and tap that shaft rearward to get at 
>>>>>>>>> the offending o-ring. I never completely remove the shaft just 
>>>>>>>>> enough to replace the O-ring. Makes it alot easier to line 
>>>>>>>>> everything back up and less chance of dislodging the reverse band 
>>>>>>>>> strut link. I always replace as the seals and gaskets that were 
>>>>>>>>> distributed during the procedure including the selector shaft 
>>>>>>>>> seal.
>>>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>>>> Winnebago MN
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be hard to describe but here goes. On my 67 
>>>>>>>>>> Imperial I have a leak at  just below the vertical surface that 
>>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft bolts to. It's a small space between the lower 
>>>>>>>>>> flange of the tailshaft and the TOP of the oil pan FLANGE. To see

>>>>>>>>>> it you have to look from the back of the transmission looking 
>>>>>>>>>> forward. It's slightly off center of the tailshaft and where it's

>>>>>>>>>> leaking appears to look like the end of a aprox 3/4" diameter 
>>>>>>>>>> shaft. Oil is seeping from this "shaft end". I've looked at the 
>>>>>>>>>> breakaway photos of the 727 and see nothing that looks like this 
>>>>>>>>>> inside so my next step is to drain the tranny,pull the pan and 
>>>>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Strohmeyer
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Robin Giesbrecht" <robings@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can buy rebuild kits for the power steering pump that are 
>>>>>>>>>>> really only a seal kit. There is a big oring that seals the 
>>>>>>>>>>> whole canister and a few more seals for the shaft and the relief

>>>>>>>>>>> valve I think. Not that hard to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robin Giesbrecht
>>>>>>>>>>> 72 Imperial
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak  - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:26:56 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--- Chris Strohmeyer <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kenyan said...........
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4.  "Bad o-rings"?  Anyone else that works on cars
>>>>>>>>>>>> > where you live?  That sounds like bad advice to me,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > but it may be out of context and part of other info
>>>>>>>>>>>> > that he gave?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Aren't there 1 or 2 large o rings on the power
>>>>>>>>>>>> > steering pump that seals the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > reservoir can?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>True.  There are o-rings.  The way that the thing's
>>>>>>>>>>>>put together sorta precludes catastrophic fluid loss
>>>>>>>>>>>>as described in the letter posted here, but to address
>>>>>>>>>>>>the question:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I were going to pay a mechanic to deal with this, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>would buy a replacement pump unit that comes with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>warranty so that I didn't have to worry about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reason being that I don't agree with paying a mechanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>to only partially rebuild a pump for a labor charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>that could very likely equal or exceed the cost of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>replacement.  I would pay the rehab factory that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>give a warranty do that portion instead and get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>whole thing spec'd out by someone that does nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>but.  That's what I'd do, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, a failed O-ring seal is highly unlikely to cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>the sort of rapid fluid loss described, so that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>I was thinking based on the info given, but I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Please use an o in my name.  I'm particular about
>>>>>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>-Kenyon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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