Hi John! Sorry you are having such a hard time getting the windshield for
your '69!!! Hopefully "third time is the charm!", will be true! By the
way, I forgot to ask you if the next time you are talking with your 'glass
shop' you would kindly ask them WHERE IN CALIFORNIA ( and from who) they
had got the windshield for a '66 that they had originally sent you instead
of one for your '69.
I am following with interest your 'adventure' about replacing the vinyl
roof on your car. My '66 LeBAron does not have the vinyl roof and I was
considering adding one sometime in the future.....my old '66 Crown, my
'daily-driver' back in the 70's, was the same Deep Plum color as this
LeBaron but had the black vinyl top and I really liked the 'limo-like'
look of the car with the vinyl top! BUT, having said that I am not sure
that adding a vinyl top is something I would want to try myself, but , ya
never know!!!! I'd love to hear any comments about doing something like
that (adding a vinyl top) to a vehicle that didn't originally have
one.....bad-idea??? good-idea???
I also am curious as to what the cost is to change out the front
windshield itself?....meaning 'labor' not including the cost of the
windshield.....!
Good Luck and hopefully the next window will get there in one piece!!!!
Dan Melnik
---- john sadowski <jsadowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
=============
The adventure continues. I first got a windshield for a 66. The correct
one arrived this week. Unfortunately it broke in transit. Another one is
on the way.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Frederick Joslin
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement
Hi John:
I am in the long process of replacing the vinyl roof on my 69 LeBaron 2
door. I was aware of some rust at the front of the roof, but did not think
that there was any around the window frame or anywhere else.
It turns out that there was quite a bit of rust around the front window
frame, especially at the trim clip screws and both A pillars were rusted
out near the top under the seam in the vinyl roof. Also, the factory body
filler at both seams at the top of the C pillars was somewhat flaky and
too easy to remove with some rust undernearth. I also had rust under the
rear window insert all the way across the back with several parts rusted
through.
The trim clips screw into the window frame. You cannot get behind for
bolts. Just about every one of my clips was rusted beyond reuse with a
variable size rust hole asociated with each. I am surprised that the trim
did not come out by itself. Probably held on by rust
I would suggest doing what I did which is remove the roof and front and
rear windows and get out the grinder and remove all rust you can find. It
is not especially hard or time consuming since you are working with a
relatively small area. Get the right tools.
I used the epoxy type body fillers to fill everything around the front
window frame after a good metal prep. I think that these are easier to use
in this type of small area irregular application and better than "Bondo".
I know that steel is best followed by lead, but I think that this will
work. I re-bondoed the seams at the top of the C pillars and steel
panelled and bondoed the area under the rear insert.
Note that if you replace the vinyl roof you should remove the glass
window from the rear fiberglass insert. The vinyl roof goes on before the
windows are installed. This is probably a good idea anyway since it
appears that a leak at a bad seal in my back window led to the rust under
the insert. There was some headliner material caught in the rubber sealing
of the back window at a bottom corner, I am guessing from the factory.
If you do not want to do the repairs yourself, you could at least do the
rust removal. This would take care of much of the work and remove
ambiguity about how much actually needed to be repaired when you take it
to the repair shop.
BTW: I have found some trim clips at the local General Store which I
think will work. I do not have any originals to compare them to! They are
in a "WeePack" and something like 6 or 8 for $2. It seems expensive for
what they are, but for these cars is actually incredible cheap.
Game 3 of the World series is on right now. I am rooting for St. Louis
These cars throw more curve balls than a World Series starter
Good luck
----- Original Message -----
From: "john sadowski"
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:13:46 -0700
Well, I thought I was going to get the windshield replaced in my 69
today. Turns out, the glass shop ordered one for a 66 instead. They
located a correct one in California & will have it here in about a week.
The shop manager was a little negative about replacing it due to
the rust in the header. He says it will leak & could fly out in an
accident. He also said he would have to glue the trim back on because of
the rust. if I'm not mistaken, the clips bolt through to the inside of the
car & not slid into the metal lip & the moldings press onto them? He is
asking me to sign a waiver in case anything like that happens. I would get
the roof fixed if I knew of a reliable shop here in the Phoenix area. I
don't want to spend a fortune & have it turn out poor.
John
Fred Joslin
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