I believe not. I bet Bill Watson can tell us for sure. Paul In an email dated 23/4/2005 12:17:52 am GMT Daylight time, "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > ? ? ? ? ? ? ?So, can the year be determined on a 61 transmission like the >engine can? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx> >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:17 PM >Subject: Re: IML: 61 Transmission Build Date > > >> The year can be determined, but you can't tell if it is the actual motor >that was put in the car at the factory by the number. >> >> Paul >> >> In an email dated 22/4/2005 2:50:35 am GMT Daylight time, Curt Brennan ><cabrennan@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> >Bill, >> >Can't you tell what YEAR the motor is though, buy the numbers >> >stamped on it? >> >Curt >> >(also on the Dodge Dart site) >> > >> >> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:45:20 -0700 >> >> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Subject: Re: IML: 61 Transmission Build Date >> >> >> >> >> >> You cannot determine if a Mopar vehicle is "numbers matching" prior to >> >> mid-1968 or so. Prior to that Chrysler did not stamp the VIN on either >> >> engines or transmissions, so there is not way to determine if those >units >> >> were installed at the factory the day the car was built. >> >> >> >> Of the numbers stamped onto the transmission, the transmission assembly >> >> number is in the first set. Thus "19499 904" is the assembly number and >it >> >> is for a 1961 Torqueflite used on 1961 Imperials (as well as Dodge >Polara, >> >> DeSoto, all Chryslers, and HP Plymouths and Darts) . It was also used >on >> >> 1960 HP Plymouths and Darts. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> Vancouver, BC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Rob Kidd >> >> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Cc: Rob Kidd >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:18 AM >> >> Subject: IML: 61 Transmission Build Date >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello, I have my 61's transmission out and ready to be >> >> rebuilt. How can I tell if it is the original -numbers matching one >that >> >> came with the car from day one? The numbers on the side of the pan lip >are; >> >> 1949904U2.5 1722128 >> >> Can these numbers be decoded to show the build date? >> >> Thanks, Rob Kidd 61/65 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- >> >> This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >> >> reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >> >> shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the >> >> Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- >> >This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >> >reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >> >shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the >> >Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm >> > >> > >> >> >> ----------------- ?http://www.imperialclub.com ?----------------- >> This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >> reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >> shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the >> Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/05 >> >> > > > >----------------- ?http://www.imperialclub.com ?----------------- >This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the >Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm > > ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm