Re: FW: IML: Hayes Bodied Coupes - And it's a New Yorker

["Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>]

When Chrysler first introduced their 1939 models, the eight-cylinder models
were all referred to as Imperial.  But within a couple of months advertising
copy began to refer to the eights simply as Imperial, New Yorker and
Saratoga.  The Royal Windsor name remained through the model year, though.
I have a copy of the Chrysler Parts List - 1939 Model Series, printed April
5, 1939, and it lists the series as Imperial, Saratoga and New Yorker.

And all published model / prices listings of the era show the cars to be
Imperial, New Yorker and Saratoga - but the Windsor still listed as the
Royal Windsor.  So it seems Chrysler decided to simplify matters after the
cars were introduced.  It definitely would have made it easier for the
public to identify each series with the simpler names.

The seller has now listed the car's serial number : 6 612 641.   The serial
number spans for the 1939 eights :

Imperial :  6 742 201 to 6 750 055
New Yorker : 6 609 901 to 6 613 333
Saratoga : 6 672 701 to 6 673 414

The car is a New Yorker Club Coupe.

Bill
Vancouver, BC




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: FW: IML: Hayes Bodied Coupes


> This is so interesting. I have been mezmorized by this car for the last
two days. It seems Bill has stated previously that the car is NOT an
Imperial, but rather a Chrysler and is either a Chrysler New Yorker or
Chrysler Saratoga. This post and the link to the sales brochure seem to
confirm that the car IS an Imperial since it is an 8 cylinder. The question
is if it is an Chrysler Imperial New Yorker or and Chrysler Imperial
Saratoga.
>
> Gee, imagine having to list all of that in the title, 1939 Chrysler
Imperial Saratoga (Hayes Body) Town Club Coupe! SHEESH! And we thought 1962
Imperial LeBaron Southampton Four Door Hardtop was a complicated handle!
>
> Paul
>
> In an email dated Sat, 5 3 2005 12:16:50 am GMT, David Duricy
<desotobravo@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> >Have a look at the '39 Chrysler brochure at:
> >
> >http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1939/39Brochure/index.htm
> >
> >Chrysler divided its line in half, Sixes were Royals
> >(series C-22) and Eights (series C-23) were Imperials.
> >
> >Among the Eights were Imperials, Imperial New Yorkers,
> >Imperial Saratogas and Crown Imperials (series C-24).
> >
> >The Hayes body appeared as a Royal Windsor Club Coupe,
> >Imperial New Yorker Club Coupe, and Imperial Saratoga
> >Club Coupe.
> >
> >Bill Watson would be able to clarify and elaborate. He
> >helped us sort out the Hayes bodies DeSotos at
> >DeSotoland.
> >
> >Dave Duricy
> >
> > --- RandalPark@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >> From what has been posted so far, it sounds like
> >> there were NO Hayes body Imperial coupes, and that
> >> this is either a Chrysler New Yorker or a Chrysler
> >> Saratoga. There is a question into the seller about
> >> the Imperial designation/serial numbers. Hopefully
> >> this will be cleared up for the record. I agree with
> >> the idea of pasting these pictures in to the OIC Web
> >> site. This is an important find, Imperial or not. I
> >> hope the car is not parted out or customized.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >
> >
> >



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