Hi All, not wanting to resurect the rag joint controversy of a few months back, but to relate my recent experience. 1st, If you haven't replaced the unit on your many many years old very heavy car. Do it I unbolted the joint, and it fell apart in 5 pieces in my hand and on the street. There was precious little actually joining the steering gear to the wheel! As per our old discussion: the factory part is very different than any of the replacements I've seen. it's an approx. inch thick affair, rubber dougnut with 4 metal wedges vucanized in it. nice design. all of the replacements are thinner rubber/fiber laminates with 4 holes cut in them. the thing is, the replacements work with an appropriate spacer, or with 2 of them grouped together. (which I did) total cost 8 bucks. I spent quite a while searching these things online, and come to find that every car I could find that used a rag joint, used these rubber/fiber ones. One thing I can say, is that the improvement is unbelieveble. I had recently replaced the old and sloppy(even after many adjustments) steering box with a rebuilt one from FirmFeel. (stage 1 firmness) wonderful, but all the slop remained until I replaced the joint. I've never driven anything like this in my Imperials it's really wonderful, and tight and precise. It really transforms the experience of driving the car. I think of all the time I've been driving (hearding?) 5500lbs of 31 yr old steel in Manhattan like that.. be safe Jack 73 Lebaron (under control) 81 Imperial (under wraps) ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm