Re: IML: IML. Spotted one (1991?)

[Jason Wulf <jrwulf@xxxxxxxxx>]

Interestingly enough...just to do some checking, I went to my local
chrysler dealer (a swindler if i EVER saw one...there are good ones in
the area, just not by my house).  The service manager told me that
he's seen many a604's go for over 200K miles if you change the fluid
and filter at least twice a year.  If you let it go a long time (100K
miles say...) then you severely hurt the life.  He didn't say that was
a good design by any means, he simply was sharing what he found as a
way to lengthen the life.  He also mentioned remembering to reset the
CVI when you swap the fluid...(i think this can be accomplished by
simply disconnecting the battery for a half hour or so..alas your
engine computer also has to redo itself...)

Just another tidbit I picked up, I'm not sure just how much merit it
holds, but seems reasonable enough, considering everything else I've
learned about this tranny that simply defies conventional logic...


-Jason


On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:40:05 -0800, A. Foster <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>  I am sorry but I did not state that the rebuild cost $5000, I said that a
> brand NEW replacement from Chrysler cost that amount. The rebuild cost was
> around $3500 dollars most of that cost being in parts since it had a
> flywheel detonate inside and the oil pan was full of nuts, washers, and
> ground metal. Aside from the mechanical parts there were some electronic
> parts that needed replacement and recalibration. We looked high and low for
> a good used one and could not find one so my mother had no choice but to
> spring for a rebuild. Had we found a smashed 95'-99' Intrepid I wouldn't be
> bringing it up now.
>   We are getting off topic here, the issue that I was raising had little to
> do with the transmission itself, it was the price of this used Imperial in
> relation to the potential costs one should incur after putting it back on
> the road. I will say this, there is an annoying tendency by many out there,
> including on the IML, to skim over rather then read a posting and respond to
> items out of context. I only hope, for their sake, that they refrained from
> this habit the last time they read and signed a legal contract.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Arran Foster
> 1954 Imperial Newport
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Wulf" <jrwulf@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: IML. Spotted one (1991?)
> 
> I'm sorry, but ANYONE that quotes you 5 grand for a transmission
> repair/rebuild/replacement is /HIGH/.
> 
> The most expensive shop I've found in my town (Vancouver, WA) wanted
> 2K to install a purchased rebuild, and another transmission shop
> recommended by the lot i bought my '90 from asked 1600 to rebuild the
> one I have with upgraded beefier parts.  Both places I would trust to
> do the job, as well.  I judge that partially on the fact when i even
> hinted at the words "transmission fluid" the both stopped me and said
> Mopar 7176, which tells me that they've dealt with these before a bit.
>  My 90 just turned over 131K on the odometer, and the only problems I
> have with it are a hard-shifting transmission, a door lock alarm
> switch problem (the alarm goes off sometimes, as the switch doesn't
> know i've unlocked the door before opening it...), and a sticky mode
> door for the heater.  other than that, the car runs just like a top,
> and I couldn't be happier.  I attribute part of this to the previous
> owner, who took immaculate care of the vehicle.
> 
> -Jason Wulf
> 
> On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:53:45 -0800, A. Foster <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Patrick;
> >   I spotted one of those early 90's Imperials in a used car lot in town
> > here; ironically enough it's the newest used car dealer in town. The car
> > looks complete and in nice cosmetic condition, but as you may have heard
> > it's the mechanical details that can make these cars a dog. I think that
> the
> > car is a 93' model for which they want the princely sum of $4500. Given
> all
> > of the expensive things that can go wrong with one of these cars, I would
> > want to see repair and rebuild receipts for everything from the ABS to the
> > transmission before entertaining such a price.
> >   My mother's 94' Intrepid has the same 4 speed automatic transmission in
> > it, it blew up and cost over $3500 for a rebuild. I am quite convinced
> that
> > this is the worst transmission that Chrysler ever made, so much so that
> they
> > redesigned and strengthened much of it in later years. If you think a new
> > one might be cheaper think again, Chrysler quoted them $5000 dollars for a
> > new one! These cars just aren't interesting enough to me to dump that kind
> > of money into.
> >  Yep, those modern fuel efficient cars sure are economical to operate
> aren't
> > they? Yet for under $2000 bucks I can buy the C-body of my choice and
> never
> > have to do anything with it other then feed it gas/oil and routine
> > maintainance. I figure that if you want total economy, and don't want to
> > pedal, get a moped or a small scooter, they're more fun anyway.
> > Best Regards
> > Arran Foster
> > 1954 Imperial Newport
> > Needing A Left Side Tailight Bezel and other trim parts.
> > 1975 Chrysler Newport
> > Soon to be acquired.
> > 1978 Puch Newport
> > Soon to be back on the road.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pnkmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: IML: IML. Spotted one (1991?)
> >
> >
> > As I've mentioned in the past, there isn't much Mopar around here.  I was
> > thrilled last week to see a '59 Belvedere at a local car show.  The guy
> > driving it joined me in marveling at how rare it was to run across them.
> >
> > Despite this rarity, I saw an ailing '91(?) yesterday.  I was with my wife
> > and kids and was driving through "downtown" behind the local tire store.
> A
> > burgundy Imperial was parked way behind the building, looking tragic as it
> > was the only vehicle not parked inside of the shop for the weekend.  I
> think
> > the motor is out of it, though it may have been sitting oddly because of a
> > failed rear suspension.  I'm going to call
> > today to find out the scoop.
> >
> > Patrick Moore
> > '58 Southampton
> > Southeast Louisiana
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike & Christine Trettin
> > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:13 PM
> > Subject: IML: Please WELCOME A New Member, George Vikos (1981)
> >
> >
> > New Subscriber(s): George Vikos
> > Email Address is: flatheadgeo@xxxxxxx
> > Member Location: Staten Island, NY
> >
> > Car(s) owned: 1981 Imperial, black ext. - red interior.
> >
> > Self-Introduction: Collector of Studebaker, Nash and Buicks. My Imperial
> is
> > a daily driver, one family original car. Car was purchased at the end of
> > October 2004.
> >
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