Thank to dr challenger for his comment. Same goes for me. I wait, yes, but who else does what he does and provides so much for our cars?? Anyway, I get tired of folks bad mouthing him. I could not have completed the cars we have without his efforts and products. About waiting, I just called to order emblems for a 53 Chrysler. At $150 each, they will not be ready until January and they won't take the order until they receive 50% and they don't take credit cards, so a check which takes more time for clearing, etc. But then, Emblemagic has the product. So one waits as patiently as possible or gets smart and thinks ahead. My two cents. Henry Hopkins, Richmond, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "DR CHALLENGER" <drchallenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:26 AM Subject: Re: IML: It's business as usual at Gary Goers! > > i have used gary many times with no problems. > > >From: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >CC: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Subject: Re: IML: It's business as usual at Gary Goers! > >Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:08:35 -0400 > > > > >From my experience, it is a shame that it is so hard to deal with most of > >these old car guys. You want to have fun in finding that sometimes rare or > >needed part for your classic car, and you pay their price, and your let > >down because it is either broken in some way, or the wrong part altogether! > >And they want to blame you for not giving them enough part numbers(ex. a > >rebuilt fuel pump kit) > >and they want you to send that wrong part back at your expense! But it is > >really disgusting when just about every step of a restoration gets messed > >up because of dealing with arrogant vendors and people who can't do things > >right the first time!!!!!! > >But it is too bad for me because Goers seems to have alot of things I could > >use for my 61& 65 but I do not want the stress and hassle that I hear he > >provides at a price. It seriously makes me want to leave this hobby! > >(maybe) Rob > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg and RussellTo: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:49 PM > > Subject: IML: It's business as usual at Gary Goers! > > > > > > As most of you know, I had Gary Goers fabricate a new leather interior > >for my '65 Crown convertible. Before I could even get the leather back on > >the seats, they turned several God awful shades of gold (they were supposed > >to be a soft metallic gold). Although he promised to make up a batch of > >dye for me, he never came through with the it to correct the problem so I > >asked this forum for advice. It was suggested I contact Leatherique. They > >did what Goers never could seem to find the time to do and $200+ later, I > >had a kit to prep the leather, the dye to correct the two toned-look and > >the glaze to make the whole thing metallic. Goers promised to reimburse me > >for my expenses with Leatherique but so far, after many emails and no > >replies, I have no reimbursement! He also promised to provide me new pads > >for my brake and accelerator pedals. Guess what? I have no new pads > >either! But the real mud in my face is the fact he refuses to even > >acknowledge my calls or emails. This has been going on since the first of > >the year! > > > > All I can say is I wish I had never heard of the man. It has been > >nothing but problems dealing with him and his rudeness in not replying to > >my calls or emails is unconscionable! For any of you contemplating buying > >anything from him, my advice to you is to try and find it elsewhere. I > >have no kind words for him whatsoever. To date I have spent over $3,300 > >with him so my orders haven't been 'little ones' as someone on the list > >informed me was the problem. I was told he responds to larger orders more > >quickly. What about correcting a problem? Does this man have no > >conscience? To treat anyone the way he has treated me is shameful. I > >never wanted anything from him but the dye to correct the problem and he > >couldn't (wouldn't) even provide that. I can only imagine what the labor > >will be to apply the products I received from Leatherique. Those 'bargain > >priced' $2,500 leather seat covers that took 17 months to get with not one > >single phone call or email from him in that entire period are going to end > >up costing over three grand when it is all said and done! But the kicker > >was, I offered to send him a deposit for the seat covers and asked him to > >sign my letter of agreement and return it to me acknowledging my $500 > >deposit check. He cashed my check within a few days but I never received > >my letter of agreement signed. I may never have received my new covers had > >I not threatened to involve an attorney (after 17 months). This 'business' > >is a joke! > > > > Greg McDonnell > > Mobile, AL > > > >