Just my two cents: I had a similar problem with my 413 when I first took delivery of the car a couple of years ago. One of the very first things Ihad done to the car was replace the plugs, wires, cap rotor, fuel filter, air filter, oil and oil filter. All was well for about a week! Then the car started to run real rough. I fired it up in the dark and low and behold I had the coolest light show from the wire looms of the 413 providing a nice path to ground. I had five out of 8 cylinders giving me the northern lights. The wire set I bought was made by Federal, and it will be the last time I ever buy anything with that brand name! I should hav eknown better since the wires felt very flimsy and thin. But living in a rural area, my choices for parts at the local store are very limited. I digress, anyway, checking for ignition related gremlins in the dark is definitely the way to go. Chris Middlebrook 62 Custom Southampton --- On Wed 08/04, Ian Beeby < ibeeby@xxxxxxx > wrote: From: Ian Beeby [mailto: ibeeby@xxxxxxx] To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:45:12 +0100 Subject: Re: IML: 413 just don't getup'n go no mo Yes, always a very good idea to look at the engine in the dark from <br>time to time to see whether there is any tracking taking place. <br>Sometimes you will not even feel the difference with one cylinder not <br>running quite right but it can be a good indicator of problems to come.<br><br>Ian<br><br>On 4 Aug 2004, at 18:08, timhulse@xxxxxxx wrote:<br><br>> I have missed most of this topic so if I repeat I apoligize. I had the <br>> same problem with the 413 in a 60. Turned out the wire that attaches <br>> to the distributor was arcing across the cap. At night I could see it <br>> but nothing in the daylight. New cap,rotor,points and all was well.<br>>><br>>> From: "Brian Shea" <bshea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><br>>> Date: 2004/08/04 Wed AM 08:41:49 EDT<br>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><br>>> Subject: RE: IML: 413 just don't getup'n go no mo<br>>><br>>> Change the points first and adjust them properly.Check the fuel <br>>> filter.You<br>>> might have junk in the tank.These are the cheapest ways to go.<br>>><br>>> -----Original Messa ge-----<br>>> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>>> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of johan C<br>>> wildhagen<br>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:44 PM<br>>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>>> Subject: IML: 413 just don't getup'n go no mo<br>>><br>>><br>>> 1965 413<br>>><br>>> This started suddenly after a short joy ride and noticeably gets a <br>>> little<br>>> worse each test drive although I think its peaked now<br>>><br>>> Hard to start, and just cant get up past 40 mph.<br>>> getting to 40 is an effort as well.<br>>> pressing the accelerator "confidently" up to about 20 mph instantly <br>>> starts<br>>> sputtering and bogs down with random thumping and pops. at idol <br>>> (park) I get<br>>> a slightly rough idol and intermittent thumping out the exhaust.<br>>><br>>> pulled each wire at the cap and got rougher idol at each one (no <br>>> help).<br>>> I looked at the cap and each of the rotor points has a matching <br>>> "spark scar"<br>>> that is off center to the same side on each (get that one?)<br>>> coil plugs and wires with after mkt electronic ignition about 2 years <br>>> old.<br>>><br>>> Im hoping ignition/timing some how.<br>>> my buddy says intake (carb) leak.<br>>> I don't want to hear compression because I just bought a new <br>>> house......<br>>><br>>> Thanx again in advance you all have bailed me out heroically in the <br>>> past.<br>>><br>>> Johan<br>>> 65 LeBaron<br>>> Washington DC<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com -----------------<br>>> This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. 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