thanks i was robbed by Kanter and picked up a kit yesterday. Now I just have to figure out how to do it.I rebuilt one on my 55 Buick the master was under the car and was very easy. It looks more difficult on the crown with the booster etc.Does anyone have any tips on removing/rebuilding the master cylinder? I'm going to do it this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Christopher Middlebrook Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:05 AM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: IML: Master Cylinder Rebuild Time? Yes, you would definitely have to bleed the cylinders all over again, but at least you'll have peace of mind knowing that your M/C is in proper working order. There is one caveat about pumping the brake pedal on a M/C that has been operational for some time. You don't want to pump the pedal all the way to the floor board since it forces the piston of the M/C to bottom out in a region of the bore where there is corrosion. This can damage the seal causing it to leak through. There are some great archived articles about this on the Imperial web site under repairs and brakes. As far as the emergency brake is concerned, I am not familiar with the way yours works. My 62 does it entirely different. Chris M --- On Wed 07/28, Brian Shea < bshea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: From: Brian Shea [mailto: bshea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:44:41 -0500 Subject: RE: IML: Master Cylinder Rebuild Time? If you remove the line, will you have to re bleed the wheel cylinders?I<br>replaced the lines on my 66 crown and the car was fine.Now I'm losing fluid<br>some where and have to fill up the master after a few days.While we are on<br>the subject of brakes,the emergency brake does not release automatically<br>either.How does that work?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx ub.com]On Behalf Of Christopher<br>Middlebrook<br>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:17 AM<br>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>Subject: Re: IML: Master Cylinder Rebuild Time?<br><br><br><br>One way to eliminate the master cylinder question would be to remove the<br>line to it and put a plug in the hole. The M/C should give you a very hard<br>pedal almost immediately.<br><br>The brakes being out of adjustment is definitely a factor too.<br><br>I broke down when I was refurbishing the brakes in my 62 and bought the<br>Motive Produ! cts power bleeder (About 50 bucks). It consists of a gar den<br>sprayer looking bottle with a pressure gauge, a long hose, and a cap<br>designed to fit over the M/C. You fill up the bottle with brake fluid, and<br>pump it up to 10-15 psi. Then you get under each wheel and let the pressure<br>do the work for you as you loosen up the bleeders. What's nice about it is<br>that you don't have to mind the M/C since the bottle is feeding brake fluid<br>under pressure. All you have to worry about is making sure the bottle has<br>enough fluid in it!<br><br>Chris Middlebrook<br>62 Custom Southampton<br><br><br><br><br> --- On Mon 07/26, < RandalPark@xxxxxxx > wrote:<br>From: [mailto: RandalPark@xxxxxxx]<br>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:58:53 -0400<br>Subject: Re: IML: Master Cylinder Rebuild Time?<br><br>This symptom can mean (among other things) that the brakes need to be<br>adjusted.<br><br>Paul<br><br>.In a message dated 7/26/2004 6:17:36 AM<br>Eastern Daylight Time, "Dave Ford" <daveford1@xxxxxxxxxxx>! writes:<br><br>>I<br>recently replaced all 6 wheel cyli nders and brake shoes on my 58<br><br>>Southampton. Brake pedal pumps up to a good hard pedal and braking is<br>good. <br>> But... my first pedal stroke on the brake goes way below the<br>pumped <br>>height so I have bled all the wheel cylinders three different<br>times to try <br>>to eliminate this issue but I still get the same<br>result.<br>>Is my problem the Master Cylinder? Should a rebuild/kit<br>suffice?<br>> Thanks<br>><br>Dave<br>><br>>_______________________________________________ _______________<br>___<br>>Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to Dig Yourself Out of Debt from<br>MSN <br>>Money.<br>http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx<br>><br>><br>><br> >--------------<br>--- http://www.imperialclub.com -----------------<br>>This message was !<br>sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please <br>>re<br>ply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be <br>>shared<br>with everyone. 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