Hi everyone, What is the process for reapiring stainless that has been heat damaged? I have a 1951 Imperial convertible that has damage to the windshield trim. Anyone know of a safe process or good shop to fix this problem? The rust spots are coming out now and I can not find replacement trim for my car. Thanks for any help you can provide. Cord Scott. neezer78@xxxxxxxxxxx >From: richard burgess <lecrown60@xxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: IML:Chrome Plated Stainless >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:44:24 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Randall and all, >When you take the trim off your '60 you will find that the back does look >like stainless which adds to the confusion. To get chrome to really >"work" the sub surface must be highly polished and the back side of the >trim would obviously not have been polished. Thus you get a "flat" look >that again resembles stainless. Secondly this is not chrome plating in >the common sense but flash-plating. A plating so thin you can take it off >with a buffing wheel. Therefore it would not be subject to cracking as it >has not cracked on bent pieces that I have. One thing I discovered when >buffing and sanding is that the original chrome surface is harder and more >resistant to scratching than the bare stainless. I think this may be the >primary reason for doing it, that and weather resistance. Of course this >would make even more sense if a part were subject to abrasion like a >rocker, as you mentioned. My other cars' stainless dulled over the years >but not the trim on my Imperial, the stuff > looks like a mirror after 44 years. To add to the confusion you can't >tell by just looking. You have to actually do some sanding or buffing on >the piece to expose the stainless and even then you have to hold it in the >sunlight to see the difference. I would tell you to not do anything more >abrasive than a hand applied creme polish and some elbow grease to clean >these parts. Just use caution unless the piece really needs repair work as >some of my parts did. Once you have gone through this finish there is no >going back. Thanks to everyone for the input. >Richard Burgess >1960 Imperial "LeCrown" Sedan >lecrown60@xxxxxxxxx > >RandalPark@xxxxxxx wrote: >Today I drove my '63 Imperial to my body man for an estimate on some work. >I mentioned to him the ongoing discussion about Imperials having chrome >plated stainless steel trim parts. He is familiar with polishing stainless, >but his shop would normally send this type of work out to be done elsewhere >since it is too time consuming. He said that he didn't remember this about >Imperials, but he hadn't worked on very many Imperials other than mine. > >He inspected the chrome on the '63 and concluded that in his opinion, the >stainless steel trim probably was not chrome plated. He gave three reasons >why he believed this. > >They are: > >1) Highly polished stainless trim will exhibit a sheen when examined under >certain lighting conditions and at certain angles. Chrome plated parts >typically do not share this characteristic unless they have been rubbed >(incorrectly)with a fine abrasive and, even then, the sheen is noticeably >different. On chrome plated parts this would look like fine scratching >rather than a sheen. He added that this sheen produces reflective qualities >that contributes to the beauty of the trim pieces. This sheen will always >be present in polished stainless. > >2) In areas where there is damage, a plated part would exhibit splitting or >cracking of the plating depending on the type of damage, where as polished >stainless would simply bend, and possibly become scratched. The difference >between scratched stainless and split plating is obvious and easy to see. > >3) After years of weather, plated surfaces show evidence of spider webbing. >The extent of this is dependent on the amount of exposure to the elements, >but is almost always present in some degree in older chrome plated parts. >Polished stainless does not age in this way. > >After inspecting various trim pieces on my '63 he determined that the >stainless trim on my car was not chrome plated. He felt that he could be >about 75% sure of this without taking the parts off the car and inspecting >them closer. He also believed that chrome plating stainless would be >unnecessary in most cases since it can be highly polished anyway, and >actually the plating would be more susceptible to weathering. > >One area where he thought that there may be plated stainless on my car and >he has seen it before on other makes, is on the rocker panel molding. This >would help to provide extra resilience to damage that could result from >small stones, although marks would still be produced, it would take longer >to become dull looking. Polished stainless that has been pelted with stones >a great deal will become very dull and look almost like tarnished aluminum. >Chrome plating could delay and possibly prevent the part from becoming >completely dull. > >He also said that if the parts are removed from the car, the back of the >parts would usually look "plated" and this would be easy to see. This >coming summer I plan to remove some of the trim from my '60 LeBaron. It >will be interesting to see if this plated look will be visible. > >Paul > > >----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- >This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >shared with everyone. 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