wireing

["A. Foster" <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx>]

Jim;
 I gather that when you are speaking of the cloth covered wire you mean the
reproduction stuff and not used. In the old radios sometimes the insulation
is still good, other times it is as hard as a rock and cracks every time you
bend it. I have also run into some sets that use some sort of gum rubber
insulation without the cloth, some of this stuff actually melts and drips
from age! I think that some wire manufacturers never vulcanised their rubber
insulation.There are a couple of outfits that sell the stuff, sun wire being
one of them, most catering to those with vintage electrical equipment.
However cloth wire is usually double the cost of ordinary wire.
 A good inexpensive substitute is what some would call Celanese wire. It has
vinyl insulation with a cloth jacket made out of Celanese, the same stuff
used in cigarette filters, and it is quite burn resistant. I have never
bought any but i have pulled yards of it from old T.V sets.
Best Regards
Arran Foster
1954 Imperial Newport.
Needing A Left Side Taillight Bezel and other trim parts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gathmann" <jim_gathmann@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: IML: wireing


> I'm pretty sure that the wire gauges were
> internationally standardized in the 40's or 50's....
>
> But to be on the same said, you can take a piece of
> the old wire, remove the insolation, and buy a wire
> gauge meter- basically it looks like a metal circule
> with holes on the sides- whichever hole matches the
> diameter of your wire will tell you what gauge it
> is....
>
> BTW- it's helpful to replace wiring with wires of the
> same color insolation (makes things easier down the
> road if you have to do something again). So it can be
> helpful to get a nice assortment of commonly used wire
> colors. You can also always (excluding audio work and
> coil work) go with higher ampage rating wire then what
> was OEM....
>
> I like to have a spoll of red, black, green, white,
> blue, brown, tan, and a few other colors for a few
> different gauges at all times. If you need wires with
> color tracers (like a blue wire with a red strip down
> the side), a good source may be old cloth covered wire
> for antique radio/TV/telephone collectors. Don't let
> the cloth fool you- I've found that it insolates
> BETTER then rubber and plastic because it doesn't melt
> or crack up over time!
>
> Hope that helps.
> --- Tracy Sherratt <dave-tracy.sherratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Hi all ,
> > I hope that some one out there can help on this.
> > When replacing old wires ,the diagram shows what
> > gauge & color. However are modern / new rolls of
> > wire still gauged the same way. I need to replace a
> > few wires that run from the ignition switch to
> > starter relay, the originals are cracking &
> > perishing quite bad. ( probably due to heat off the
> > engine.)some of the wires seem to have quite a thick
> > insulation. But modern wiring seems to be thinner
> > even if the amperage rating is the same. I am no
> > auto electrician but still capable of doing small
> > jobs like this, just the Tech side is letting me
> > down. For those that are familiar with the 60/61
> > Imps I will probably need to replace Gen. to reg./
> > reg to ammeter/ light switch.
> > Thanks for your time,
> > Dave 60 Le Baron
> > England.
> >
>
>
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