Not quite related to the starter, but I've been warned against header wraps because they keep so much heat in that the pipes might warp. Headers are expensive. If you have room for it, you might want to put a small heatshield between the starter and the pipe, alternatively, get a small dakota starter as it would give you a little more room. I wonder if the starter maybe is out of lubrication, if you've had it a small eternity, maybe the slight thermal expansion and lack of grease makes it bind. Could be time to remove and go through the starter. Carl http://www.robdiesel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "kenyon wills" <imperialist60@xxxxxxxxx> Before I go and try to fiddle around with fabricating a sheet-metal heat sheild or buying heat insulating wrapping for the pipe, is there something that I'm not understanding here?