Hugh, consider Rainex. It does nothing below 40 mph or so, but over 50, the rain just flows out of the windshield without obscuring your sight. You may even be able to just turn off your ineffective wipers. Now, if you are between 30 and 40 where you are going too fast for your wipers and too slow for rainex, you may still be in trouble. Just consider this a danger zone, and accelerate as fast as you can from 30 to 40 when it rains! ;) D^2 At 12:42 AM 2/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: >hills. Above 30 MPH, the wipers on my car are essentially useless. They >seem to hover above the glass making no difference whatsoever.