Not firing

["Dick Benjamin" <DickB@xxxxxxxxx>]

The major benefit would be to AM radios, but there would probably be a
slight improvement in FM reception also, especially if the leads to the
condenser are kept very short.

Dick Benjamin
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob G. <rob1964cc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: IML: Not firing


> Thanks, Dick.
>
> One last question.  Was the external condenser
> intended to benefit only AM radios or both AM and
> AM/FM radios?
>
>
> --- Dick Benjamin <DickB@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Condensers were formerly known as capacitors, and
> > both terms are accurate,
> > as another member pointed out previously.   A
> > capacitor/condenser is an
> > electrical component, and it has a value, just as a
> > resistor or other
> > electrical component has.  There is only one correct
> > value for the condenser
> > inside your distributor, because it has to work with
> > the inductance of the
> > coil to minimize the amount of sparking when the
> > points break the circuit.
> > If it is incorrect in value (given in microFarads,
> > and typically an ignition
> > condenser has a value of around .4 mF) the points
> > will transfer metal from
> > one side to the other (the direction tells you which
> > way the value is off),
> > contributing to rapid point deterioration.   More
> > trivia?  OK, Farad is
> > named for Mr. Faraday, who developed much of the
> > early electrical theory
> > this is all based on.
> >
> > The condenser that is mounted on the side of the
> > coil bracket and is
> > connected to the ignition switch side of the coil is
> > merely a noise
> > suppression device, the electrical value is very
> > non-critical, and in fact
> > the car will run just fine without it, although you
> > might notice a little
> > more noise in your AM radio signal.  This is a good
> > place to use up those
> > old discarded ignition condensers you never threw
> > away.
> >
> > Dick Benjamin (who not only played an EE, I are one!
> > - or used to be)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rob G. <rob1964cc@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: IML: Not firing
> >
> >
> > > Does this mean that I can also use the same part
> > in
> > > both places?  I have not yet replaced the part
> > > attached to the coil.  (Also, noticed I
> > incorrectly
> > > spelled capacitor!!!  back to school for me!!!)
> > >
> > > --- jdporter@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > condenser and capacitor are interchangeable
> > terms
> > > > for the same item.
> > > >                        mo jo
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rob G. <rob1964cc@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:04 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: IML: Not firing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >FYI - Someone also referred to the capacitator
> > as
> > > > the
> > > > >condenser.  They are two different items.  The
> > > > >condenser is in the distributor.  The
> > capcitator is
> > > > >not in the distributor, and is visible right
> > beside
> > > > >the coil.  It looks like a condenser though.
> > Just
> > > > >disconnect it and try to fire it up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Imp1983@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >> From: "Niko and Sophie"
> > <niknsop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> Subject: IML: Not  Firing
> > > > >> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:51:53 -0700
> > > > >> Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>   After fifty miles of fine driving,i parked
> > the
> > > > car
> > > > >> . A few hours later  it
> > > > >> woudnt start.There is not spark at the spark
> > > > >> plugs.The following checked
> > > > >> okay: Distributor,points ,rotor&cup,ignition
> > coil
> > > > >> and battery.Any ideas will
> > > > >> be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> The same thing happened to me in my 64 the
> > other
> > > > >> week.
> > > > >> Turned out that the capacitator (small
> > cyclinder
> > > > >> bolted on by one of the coil mounting bolts
> > and
> > > > >> wired
> > > > >> to the coil) shorted out internally and shut
> > down
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> car.  .....
> > > > >> ..... voltmeter.  I think its only purpose is
> > to
> > > > >> supress
> > > > >> electrical interference with radio reception.
> > > > Thus,
> > > > >> by disconnecting it, the car may fire up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I vote also for the radio noise suppression
> > > > >> capacitor.  I had one go bad on
> > > > >> my 1979 Dodge Magnum, and it took a LONG time
> > to
> > > > >> figure it out.  I even had a
> > > > >> dealer service guy make a HOUSE call.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He ended up finding it as I cranked the
> > engine
> > > > and
> > > > >> he saw smoke coming off of
> > > > >> the capacitor.  Externally it showed no trace
> > of
> > > > a
> > > > >> problem (has a metal
> > > > >> case).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's either that, or try changing the ballst
> > > > >> resistor.  We had a 1969 Dodge
> > > > >> Coronet and that's what was wrong with it.
> > My
> > > > dad
> > > > >> used to keep a spare one
> > > > >> handy as he had one or two go bad.  The
> > engine
> > > > will
> > > > >> crank but not start.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dan Wing
> > > > >> Marcy, NY, USA
> > > > >> Imp1983@xxxxxxx
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 83 Imp, beige, leather,
> > > > >> Le Baron turbine wheel covers,
> > > > >> factory/dealer carb conversion
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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