Mark McDonald wrote: > What surprises me is that I don't see Engel's influence > persisting at Chrysler for so long after he left . . . or maybe I'm just not > recognizing it. I don't know that anyone's influence lingers long after they've left the design chief's role at a company, unless that company's products linger on the market too long. Engel's versatility in design is another reason it might be hard to see his influences. He wasn't a one-trick pony, as the '69 fuselage cars and the handsome '72 Dodge pickup attested. That said, there is still one Engel-designed Chrysler product you can buy, even though it's been facelifted and updated numerous times: the full-size Dodge Ram van that debuted for 1971. Chris in LA 67 Crown (and two other Engels, making me a tri-Engel, I guess)