I was shocked, absolutely SHOCKED silly, to read tonight
that the Imperial website has added an article about 1957
cars that contains... dare I say it... INFERIOR BRANDS.
Though my heart skipped a beat at the mention of DeSoto,
Dodge and Plymouth, I fairly swooned at the mention of
Hudson and Studebaker, but hey, they're orphans now so I
recovered. But the inclusion of... dear readers, I can't
utter their names out loud, but one starts with a "ch..."
sound and the other with a "fff..." DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT
THESE ARE INFERIOR CARS OWNED BY PLEBIAN IMBECILES, NOT
WORTHY TO GRACE THE SHADOW OF OUR BLUE BLOODED REPUBLICAN
SNOB CHARIOTS? My God, those people don't even have
servants!
... If you're still reading I suppose you know that I'm
joking... sort of. There are a few imperious impstapo who
choose to impose their own SUBJECTIVE standard on what can
and can't be mentioned, then bend the rules as they see fit.
Anticipating a lecture about following the rules, I dare
say, "lighten up and get a life!" Kick me off the list and
put me out of my misery of sorting through tons of
uninformative pap to find a pearl of information, and to
then be told I can't read or write about the same parts used
on some forbidden brand. God forbid that any of you should
learn you can go to the local Ch*** store to get metering
rods or other parts for your Carter carb. Nosiree, we can't
mention the interchange, you'll have to struggle to find
parts like anyone else or buy them from the impstapo
approved vendors instead. But we can pontificate about
Toyota Supra rotors, oh yes, that's okay, that's different
you see.
Well, I don't see. And frankly I don't think the impstapo
does either. They just have the power.
--Roger van Hoy, '55DeSoto, '42DeSoto, '66Plymouth,
'73Duster, '81 Imperial, Washougal, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Johnson" <bjj@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: IML: Impcop/other topics
| Allan
|
| I too feel bad if Roy leaves but if he does it has nothing
to do with what
| you think. What you are missing is private posts
explaining the rules. I will
| be posting a reminder for all of us that may not realize
we even have them.
| Unfortunately, they are buried in our web site and not
always easily found
| and read. Many components of the automobile are similar
and universal, carbs,
| gear ratio, steering, electronics and on and on. It is
quite all right to
| discuss any and all of these in general on the list when
they are Imperial
| related. In using the carb for example, it is easy to talk
specifically about
| changing metering rods on Carter carburetors with out
having to discuss what
| make of car they came off. And again that information is
wanted and
| encouraged. What happens when we start getting brand
specific is the Imperial
| content is lost and soon we are comparing T o y o t a's to
Gateway computers and
| everyone wonders why. If anyone doesn't believe this
happens can research the
| archives and see. The worst part is things usually develop
into a flame war
| because people get off the topic and then get p/oed with
each other.
|
| Bottom line is anything automotive that can contribute to
Imperial ownership
| and restoration is fine here as long as it is addressing
the Imperial. If my
| point was not clear, I apologize to you, Roy and the list.
It is a fine line
| but is there for a reason. Thanks for speaking your peace,
Allan!
|
| Impcop
|
| bandmgrinding@xxxxxxxx wrote: A M E N !!!!!!
|
| > Hi Guys
| > To the Impcop, don't you think you came down a
little hard on Roy for
| > mentioning that " the other car" had the same problem.
He was probably
| > just using that example because that is what he is most
familiar with. I
| > think that by losing him as part of the group we will be
losing someone
| > with a lot of mechanical experience and knowledge that
could benefit a
| > lot of us in the group. While I am not advocating
bringing up or talking
| > about other subjects or cars, I think that we could all
learn from
| > comparisons and experience with other cars. Also, it
might be a great way
| > to come up with some interchanges and modifications to
parts that will
| > then fir our Imperials. Also, I for one find it
interesting to see what
| > other Imperial owners have driven and are driving or
working on and I
| > agree that any discussion of same should be taken
private or to another
| > group that would be better served by the information but
if we are not
| > allowed to even compare or mention another car name or
make , items like
| > the production figures of other cars, or even our sign
offs should not
| > include anything else but our Imperial only. This would
seem a little
| > silly to me but I am willing to abide by the rules .
| >
| > Thanks for the time to speak my peace.
| >
| > Allan R.
| > 1962 Imperial Conv
| >
| > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:18:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard
Time) "Roy Braatz"
| > <braatz@xxxxxxx> writes:
| > > Unvaryingly I like and appreciate all makes of cars,
and not just
| > > Chrysler
| > > and seance that's my feeling. I believe, I may be in
the wrong
| > > "group or
| > > club" ! > In that case I feel I also need to resign my
membership. Good
| > luck
| > > to the
| > > Impcop's ROY= 1957 Crown Imperial Convt. >
> -------Original
| > Message------- > > > From:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date:
| > Friday, January 25, 2002 03:38:58 AM > To:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > Subject: IML: Poor gas mpg > > To help people
understand and clarify
| > on topic and off topic items. > Carter carbs are
universal to most makes
| > of cars. It is very simple
| > > to > talk about Carter Carb's in a generic sense
without starting a
| > > thread > about how my Chevy does this and how my Ford
is better than my
| >
| > > Chevy, > etc. Get the drift? If not, don't post until
you are sure what
| > list
| > > you > are on. > > Impcop > > Roy Braatz wrote: > >
> > Most all
| > Crater use the same type and but different sizes, what >
I've done over
| > the years is buy junk looking ones at a swap meet > for
a couple of
| > dollars just to get the rods but have used them or >
given them out. I
| > could mention how to adjust your's or check them > , but
was informed
| > that I cant use another make of car to explain > or
compare with. As I
| > did last time mentioning the word corvette > Op sorry.
Chrysler only. >
| > -------Original Message------- > > From:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
| > Date: Thursday, January 24, 2002 06:25:38 PM > To:
| > mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: IML: Poor
gas mpg > Roy, you
| > don't happen to know where you find other metering rods
> > to try do
| > you? > > Tristan > > > I thought to mention beside
the rear end gears,
| > to think about > what your CARTER AFB metering rods size
is! Owners that
| > are > second or third owners of their car need to wonder
if the carb >
| > ever was rebuilt and if so were the right metering rods
> reinstalled in
| > THAT carb. You need to understand that two brass >
metering rods are
| > lifted out of the fuel jet HOLES as you step > on the
gas and has to be
| > correct for performance. The jet holes > that the
metering rods go
| > through are stander size for that > carb, but the rod
thickness depend on
| > engine size and HP. Think > of it this way , if the jet
hole is always
| > the same size .A > thinner rod increases fuel flow 1.
( to much -fouling
| > plugs,dark > smoke car can feel like it lugging and can
Diesel do to
| > carbon > build up) .To thick a rod ( plugs run hot,
engine runing >
| > hotter,no power, pinging, stuttering) I found my 57
doing the > second.
| > like the three bears you need to try different ones to >
get it just
| > RIGHT.Early Corvettes have Carter's and the same >
condition to deal
| > with. > roy 57 > > > >
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