RE: Re: IML: Chrysler Newport Imperial packages??

["Isenhour" <isenhour@xxxxxxxx>]

Ebay sellers will tack on extra words for the search so they can pick up
more buyers.  If you put Newport in there and you search "Chrysler Newport"
you will see the Imperial and think "Hey I could use that motor/trans in my
Newport.  Or see a Newport when searching for an Imperial and say the same
thing. 

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Chris, thanks for getting back to me. Here is two on ebay with the name
Chrysler Newport Imperial:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-SUPER-CLEAN_W0QQitemZ2
90203665029QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43905QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chrysler-Newport-Imperial-1973-Chrysler-Newpo
rt_W0QQitemZ220199619508QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43906QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem
Let me know what you think.


>From: Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: 2008/02/10 Sun PM 12:13:06 CST
>To: "IML (main)" <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: IML: Chrysler Newport Imperial packages??

>Anthony,
>
>I'm not sure what model you are talking about.
>
>The 1951-54 2-door hardtops would have been Chrysler Imperial Newports,
>since:
>
>  1) Chrysler was still the marque or brand (Imperial Division would
>      not be created until 1955 model year).
>  2) Imperial was the model line within the Chrysler Division lineup.
>  3) Newport denoted the 2-door hardtop bodystyle for all Chrysler
>      Division models that offered them.
>
>The 1955 Imperial (now its own brand, no longer a Chrysler Division model)
>still used "Newport" for the hardtop bodystyle. This would be changed to
>Southampton for 1956. (Chrysler stayed with Newport.)
>
>The Newport name went on to become the lowest-level model line in the
>Chrysler Division starting in 1961 and lasting through 1978.
>
>Chris in LA
>
>
>
>
>On 2/10/08 9:43 AM, mamrom@xxxxxxxxxxx at mamrom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Here is one that I can't still figure out on this same Thread of
discussing
>> models. Why was a car called "Chrysler Newport Imperial" when a Chrysler
>> Imperial was still in productions back in the 70's? -Anthony
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 2008/02/10 Sun AM 09:55:16 CST
>>> To: "IML (main)" <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: IML: Ranking of models and packages
>> 
>>> With all due respect to Roger's enthusiasm for owning the top trim level
of
>>> Imperial, I feel some clarifications are needed in the interest of not
>>> revising history.
>>> 
>>> The LeBaron name, like Fleetwood for Cadillac, has a grand history and
comes
>>> from that of a coachbuilder from the earlier part of the century that
was
>>> purchased by (and ultimately dissolved into) Chrysler Corporation (as GM
did
>>> with Fleetwood). The image of the name was deemed suitable for their
finest
>>> product, and the clever folks at Chrysler Corp marketing even went so
far as
>>> to use the word "Coachwork" on the badges on the car. (Which I don't
think
>>> are real gold, are they???)
>>> 
>>> While dealers might not have ordered many LeBarons for the lot (as with
any
>>> top trim level), there was nothing to prevent them from doing so... and
it
>>> is entirely possible to buy a LeBaron that was not custom-ordered by
your
>>> royal self, the 1960s luxury car customer. But because many of these
>>> customers were the type who would want exactly the car they desired, and
>>> because dealers would be smart not to pay inventory costs on a few
examples
>>> of the most expensive car in their lineup on their lot, it was less
common
>>> to find one in stock. In fact, Chrysler-Plymouth-Imperial dealers did
not
>>> tend to "floorplan" many Imperials at all, for the reasons stated above
and
>>> because they didn't sell nearly in the numbers of the lower-priced
models
>>> they sold.
>>> 
>>> But it was also quite common for people to special-order their Crowns,
>>> Customs and even their lowly Chrysler Newports and Plymouth Savoys, if
the
>>> dealer did not have what they wanted. People just did this back then.
>>> 
>>> Air conditioning was just ramping up in popularity in the early 1960s.
>>> Consider that only 33% of 1958 Imperials had it, but 60% had it by 1962.
It
>>> is only logical that those individuals willing to pay for the highest
trim
>>> level (LeBaron) were also willing to pay for more luxury options, so
even
>>> beyond their elevated standard equipment, it is more common to find a
highly
>>> optioned LeBaron than a loaded Custom.
>>> 
>>> Some prices to consider, all for 1961 4-door Southampton (hardtop)
models:
>>> - Custom, base MSRP: $5,111
>>> - Crown, base MSRP: $5,649  <-- $538 jump from a Custom
>>> - LeBaron, base MSRP: $6,428  <-- $779 jump from a Crown
>>> - Air conditioning: $590.20  <-- About the same as the model jumps above
>>> 
>>> Roger's point is valid in that the LeBaron is the finest of the fine, so
if
>>> you want the top of the line, find a lovely LeBaron! (Though dear Roger,
why
>>> do you keep making our Crowns and Customs sound like Valiants?) And it's
>>> only logical to create the Ghia limousine, which actually is a
coachbuilt
>>> car, from the top trim level, so if you really want the best, find one
of
>>> the handful of Ghia limos built each year! But the truth is, you can't
order
>>> a new one now anyway, so find the car "in stock" somewhere that speaks
to
>>> your heart and has the best combination of features, color and
condition,
>>> and you'll be off to a good start.
>>> 
>>> Chris in LA
>>> 67 Crown
>>> 78 NYB Salon
>>> 63 Dart
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/9/08 8:18 PM, RODGER D. REDDISH at FltSgt@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hola David
>>>>  
>>>> The answer is in the history of the Le Baron name.  If the car is an
>>>> Packard,
>>>> or whatever brand name,  the value is upper by enough to see why.  The
1961
>>>> owner of an new La Baron had to pay for the gold placed on the car, not
so
>>>> with the entry level Custom or the mid level Crown's ( find the gold
in the
>>>> cars with an "L" or the "M" ).
>>>>  
>>>> In 1961 an want to be Imperial owner could drive over to the lot and
have
>>>> that
>>>> Custom or Crown.  All Le Baron's were an special order only.  Find an
Le
>>>> Baron
>>>> with out A/|C.  Then look at how many Custom's or Crown's that do not
have
>>>> the
>>>> equiptment.
>>>>  
>>>> On an like note please look at the rear window of the 1961 Le Baron and
>>>> compare it with Crown Imperial ( aka Lim-o ).  All Crown Imperial's (
the
>>>> ones
>>>> that were shipped from the plant to Ghia ) have the Le Baron package as
an
>>>> starting point.
>>>>  
>>>> There are some other points to look at, but I believe you are able to
see
>>>> the
>>>> picture better now.
>>>>  
>>>> Rodger & Gabby
>>>> COS
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: David  Randall <mailto:david.randall@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>  
>>>>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:28  AM
>>>>>  
>>>>> Subject: IML: Ranking of models and  packages
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've searched on the site and elsewhere for this  info, and maybe I
missed
>>>>> it, but I don't quite understand  the rakings  of models and/or
packages in
>>>>> the Imperial line. In the '61s for example,  where does a LeBaron sit
vs. a
>>>>> Crown or Southampton?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> David
>>>>> '78 NYB  coupe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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