Re: IML: Harmonic Balancer

["Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Paul,

Ok, back to square one:)
I want to pull the harmonic balancer for two reasons:

a) The timingmarks are changing all the time on the old one, that means that 
the rubber has detoriated over the years and that the outer ring slips...
b) I want to replace the timingchain, I don't know how long the old one is 
in use (cause I don't know the maintainace history of the car), but I can 
hear that it is making noise (checked it with a stethoscope)

Thanks,

Robert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PAUL WENTINK" <randalpark@xxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Harmonic Balancer


Let's go back to square one. Why do you want to remove this?

Paul W.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:01 am
Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


You might have a point here Rob!
Same thing crossed my mind, but I was more thinking of breaking the
head of the crankshaft bolt..
Leaving the remaining piece of the bolt flush with the
crankshaft....oughhhh!!!

Any thoughts, anyone? How is risky is that starter motor trick
actually??

Thanks,

Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color

Sounds easy enough. BUT, what if the bolt was siezed in
the crankshaft tighter than normal and you would shear a
tooth on the starter or the ring gear since the engine
would not normally turn over freely from a dead stop?
Remember, 48+ year old "worn" parts you are dealing with.
I'd try the impact route on the bolt if possible. Rob Kidd
61/65

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:35:32 -0600
"Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sounds a little scary to me but if you do it this way, I'd certainly 
> disconnect the coil wire to make absolutely no way the engine would 
> accidently start with the breaker bar in place. Stevan Miner Miner Auto 
> Service Winnebago, MN
> -------------------------------------------------- 
> From: <mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:21 PM To: 
> <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Dave Wilker" 
> <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> > Dave has the right idea. Just do like he says and make
> sure the socket is
> > on right. Workd every time. for me. ---- Dave Wilker 
> > <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I have a trick. I place the proper size socket on the
> harmonic balancer
> > > bolt, with appropriate extensions, and a good stout
> breaker bar. I turn
> > > the crank carefully until the breaker bar is resting on
> the left frame
> > > rail (driver's side). Once all the tools are firmly in
> place, I bump the
> > > starter. Just a bump. This breaks the bolt loose so you
> can remove it
> > > easily. Be careful when doing this. Make sure the
> socket is all the way
> > > on and there is no slack in the setup. David C. Wilker Jr. USAF 
> > > (RET) ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rob van der Es To: 
> > > mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 AM 
> > > Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color Hi David, And, btw, do you have a 
> > > good trick to remove that
> bolt that keeps the
> > > harmonic balancer on the crankshaft? I am in progress of replacing the 
> > > timing chain of my
> engine, but are a
> > > little afraid to start cause everyone told me that this bolt is very 
> > > hard to remove.. Especially with the engine in the car, ofcourse I
> don't want to remove
> > > the engine for a relative "simple" job like replacing
> the timing chain!!
> > > Robert
> >
> >
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