I don't think that this claim is arrogant at all. I totally agree that if one drives defensively there is little chance that you will be at much risk. There is the odd drunk driver out there but I have not seen too many on a Sunday afternoon while taking my classic out for a bit of fresh air. If you are driving your classic at the time bars are closing or during rush hours, then you will increase the risk of getting your Imperial dented. Responsibility remains with the driver at all times. Hank Leskie 62 convert. |---------+-----------------------------------> | | "K. Eric Wolfe" | | | <kewolfe@xxxxxxxxx> | | | Sent by: | | | mailing-list-owner@impe| | | rialclub.com | | | 25/08/2006 04:25 p.m. | | | Please respond to | | | mailing-list | |---------+-----------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | | | To| | <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | cc| | | | Subject| | RE: IML: Imperial Brakes | | | | | | | | | | | | | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| The arrogance of the claim that close encounters are related to the person having them is beyond belief. Driving a 66 with fully up-to-date and serviced drum brakes gives the driver one of two choices when a drunk driver goes around a stopped vehicle at a stop sign – broadside him or go up onto the curb. Distracted, impaired and just plain inconsiderate drivers are an unfortunate fact of life. Despite allowing for adequate spacing between vehicles at highway speeds, there are often drivers who cut in at the last moment, often without the use of turn signals, to make the off ramp. Cars that in their prime would stop at 130 feet or more have little chance of avoiding multi-piston, four wheel disc brakes of today’s “pocket rockets” that weight in at half their weight. -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of randalpark@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:59 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Imperial Brakes Our lovely behemoths stop in far less space than a semi, and those are everywhere. I've said it before, and I will say it again more politely this time, that it is perfectly okay to drive these cars as long as they are in safe condition and us drivers adjust or driving to the vehicle. To me that is part of the responsibility of sharing the road. Myriads of close encounters of the bad kind are usually more related to the person having them than to the others on the road. Our cars had some of the best drum brakes ever built, so if they don't feel right when they are coming to a halt, they need to be repaired or adjusted. Anyone who thinks that their car is unsafe, should keep it in the garage. I happen to know that mine are not, so they get out on the road whenever possible. Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: marc.f.hall@xxxxxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 6:39 AM Subject: RE: IML: 1962 LeBaron I too ply the highways and byways of the Seattle/Puget Sound area, but am reluctant to use the '66 Crown Coupe for commuting due to: o Floating down the road in a 5,200+ LB car with drum brakes o Most cars on the road have modern disc brakes o Most drivers on the roads are not aware of the stopping distances my lovely behemoth requires o Numerous negative experiences on roads where the above facts are not considered by other drivers I used to commute, but too many close calls due to lack of consideration by fellow commuters. A couple near misses and near death experiences convinced me to drive a car with disc brakes when driving into Seattle on I-5. I usually drive my classic cars on the weekends or for local driving, on average fewer occurrences of aggressive driving then. Less folks are in a hurry when not commuting. Marc in Mukilteo '66 Crown Coupe '67 300 Convertible 787 Service Ready Leader Customer Support Program Management Commercial Aviation Services 425-294-4309 phone 206-409-4853 Mobile From: randalpark@xxxxxxx [mailto:randalpark@xxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:30 AM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: rest19tb0@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: 1962 LeBaron This week I had to schedule my regular driving car for some much needed service. Anything that is driven very much requires it, and though mostly still capable, I haven't got as much time to devote to car maintenance myself as I would like or once did. I chose to allow my 1962 LeBaron the opportunity to become my daily driver for these few days. I am always well under my annual mileage limit for collector cars as specified in my insurance, and the need to drive the car is obvious. Indeed, for me the occasional drive is classified as maintenance. I can barely describe the renewed feeling of satisfaction that I experienced behind the wheel of that old car. Having owned it since 1979, the two of us have been though a lot. Happily, at this point in our relationship of 27 years, we still hold our own together with the best of them. Merging with traffic on our high speed morning thoroughfare, the old girl steps right up to the challenge of "inserting herself" into rush hour freeway traffic with tremendous grace and absolutely NO fuss. The announcement begins with a flick of the turn signal lever, followed by a firm plunge into the accelerator pedal. Amazingly, we are "up to speed" instantly, at least it seems so compared to my normal routine. The steep, clogged, streets of early morning Seattle present no difficulty whatsoever. As the need arrives to leap forward from a 45 degree angle stop, pointed towards the clouds, a touch of the accelerator is all that is necessary to briskly move the old colossus forward without the slightest hesitation. Pedestrians simply stare in awe. Cruising I-5 on the way home, during brief interludes of extreme serenity, at 75 mph with the Southampton's windows fully lowered, makes up for the fact that the old R-12 A/C system has long since lost its initial factory charge. This week's mild temperatures of the mid to upper 70's add to the delight of the experience. The superb manners of the car, highlighted by its still amazing handling characteristics top the list of my favorite features of these cars. Thankfully, in spite of its many well earned warts, this car still excels in that department. Every now and then I wonder why I have kept my Imperials out in the garage all of these years. Opportunities like the one this week quickly remind me what all the excitement is about. Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: kiwiimp65@xxxxxxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 3:37 AM Subject: RE: IML: wanting a cool car Tim , Take a look at www. recycler. com Geoff Simpson _________________________________________________________________ Shop ‘til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/ ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. 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