Eric, Very well said. Our Imperials are great and WE treat them with a lot of respect and do NOT want anything to happen to them. Unlike MANY driver on the road now who do not have ANY respect to any one except themselves and very little idea of the consequnces of their action, let alone driving responsibly. Tailgating, third lane entering or leaving a freeway, showing their intelligence by the number of times they DO NOT use turn signals, and yacking on a cell phone in heavy traffic are not sign they the driver is not responsible enough to be behind the wheel. [I'll get off my soapbox] A good example is when I was driving back to Tucson from Portland, OR. I was the ONLY other vehice on I-5 at 2:15AM (3+years ago). The female who hit me @ 85+ mph told the officer, "I don't know where my mind was. I did not see him until I was hitting him." Fortunately, I was driving a full sized Dodge van (B250) hauling a 6x10 U-Haul trailer (45 mph limit). BOTH were totaled and I went to the hospital and my back is still messed up today. BUT you can be assured that if I had been driving my 1975 Imperial (with 4-wheel disc brakes) @ 75mph there would not have been near as much damage, if any. My Imperial does an excellant job of stopping truely (even with worn rear rotors). Æyn --- "K. Eric Wolfe" <kewolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The arrogance of the claim that close encounters are related to > the > person having them is beyond belief. Driving a 66 with fully > up-to-date > and serviced drum brakes gives the driver one of two choices > when a > drunk driver goes around a stopped vehicle at a stop sign - > broadside > him or go up onto the curb. Distracted, impaired and just > plain > inconsiderate drivers are an unfortunate fact of life. Despite > allowing > for adequate spacing between vehicles at highway speeds, there > are often > drivers who cut in at the last moment, often without the use of > turn > signals, to make the off ramp. Cars that in their prime would > stop at > 130 feet or more have little chance of avoiding multi-piston, > four wheel > disc brakes of today's "pocket rockets" that weight in at half > their > weight. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > randalpark@xxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:59 PM > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: IML: Imperial Brakes > > > > Our lovely behemoths stop in far less space than a semi, and > those are > everywhere. I've said it before, and I will say it again more > politely > this time, that it is perfectly okay to drive these cars as > long as they > are in safe condition and us drivers adjust or driving to the > vehicle. > To me that is part of the responsibility of sharing the road. > Myriads of > close encounters of the bad kind are usually more related to > the person > having them than to the others on the road. > > > > Our cars had some of the best drum brakes ever built, so if > they don't > feel right when they are coming to a halt, they need to be > repaired or > adjusted. Anyone who thinks that their car is unsafe, should > keep it in > the garage. I happen to know that mine are not, so they get out > on the > road whenever possible. > > > > Paul W. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: marc.f.hall@xxxxxxxxxx > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 6:39 AM > Subject: RE: IML: 1962 LeBaron > > I too ply the highways and byways of the Seattle/Puget Sound > area, but > am reluctant to use the '66 Crown Coupe for commuting due to: > > o Floating down the road in a 5,200+ LB car with drum brakes > > o Most cars on the road have modern disc brakes > > o Most drivers on the roads are not aware of the stopping > distances my > lovely behemoth requires > > o Numerous negative experiences on roads where the above facts > are not > considered by other drivers > > > > I used to commute, but too many close calls due to lack of > consideration > by fellow commuters. A couple near misses and near death > experiences > convinced me to drive a car with disc brakes when driving into > Seattle > on I-5. > > > > I usually drive my classic cars on the weekends or for local > driving, on > average fewer occurrences of aggressive driving then. Less > folks are in > a hurry when not commuting. > > > > Marc in Mukilteo > > '66 Crown Coupe > > '67 300 Convertible > > > > 787 Service Ready Leader > Customer Support Program Management > Commercial Aviation Services > 425-294-4309 phone > 206-409-4853 Mobile > > > > > > _____ > > From: randalpark@xxxxxxx [mailto:randalpark@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:30 AM > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: rest19tb0@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: IML: 1962 LeBaron > > This week I had to schedule my regular driving car for some > much needed > service. Anything that is driven very much requires it, and > though > mostly still capable, I haven't got as much time to devote to > car > maintenance myself as I would like or once did. I chose to > allow my 1962 > LeBaron the opportunity to become my daily driver for these few > days. I > am always well under my annual mileage limit for collector cars > as > specified in my insurance, and the need to drive the car is > obvious. > Indeed, for me the occasional drive is classified as > maintenance. > > > > I can barely describe the renewed feeling of satisfaction that > I > experienced behind the wheel of that old car. Having owned it > since > 1979, the two of us have been though a lot. Happily, at this > point in > our relationship of 27 years, we still hold our own together > with the > best of them. Merging with traffic on our high speed morning > thoroughfare, the old girl steps right up to the challenge of > "inserting > herself" into rush hour freeway traffic with tremendous grace > and > absolutely NO fuss. The announcement begins with a flick of the > turn > signal lever, followed by a firm plunge into the accelerator > pedal. > Amazingly, we are "up to speed" instantly, at least it seems > so > compared to my normal routine. The steep, clogged, streets of > early > morning Seattle present no difficulty whatsoever. As the need > arrives to > leap forward from a 45 degree angle stop, pointed towards the > clouds, a > touch of the accelerator is all that is necessary to briskly > move the > old colossus forward without the slightest hesitation. > Pedestrians > simply stare in awe. > > > > Cruising I-5 on the way home, during brief interludes of > extreme > serenity, at 75 mph with the Southampton's windows fully > lowered, makes > up for the fact that the old R-12 A/C system has long since > lost its > initial factory charge. This week's mild temperatures of the > mid to > upper 70's add to the delight of the experience. The superb > manners of > the car, highlighted by its still amazing handling > characteristics top > the list of my favorite features of these cars. Thankfully, in > spite of > its many well earned warts, this car still excels in that > department. > > > > Every now and then I wonder why I have kept my Imperials out in > the > garage all of these years. Opportunities like the one this > week quickly > remind me what all the excitement is about. > > > > Paul W. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kiwiimp65@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 3:37 AM > Subject: RE: IML: wanting a cool car > > Tim , Take a look at www. recycler. com Geoff Simpson > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Shop 'til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping > http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/ > > > ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- > > This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. > Please reply > to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('mailing-list%40imperialclub.com');> > and > your response will be shared with everyone. 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