Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors

["Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well Kenyon,

The problem with beer is that I like to drink it myself too much I am
afraid..
The machinist that destroyed my original disc was an older man actually,
he thought that the disc was made out of brass or copper.
And that is why he decided to sandblast it, only to find out then that it
was potmetal @#%%@#!!

Ofcourse I can try to repair the damaged disc myself, but the problem is
that even if I succeed I still have to send the disc to the US cause in my
country most chrome factories can't handle potmetal!!
And another problem for me is that the melting point of brass is almost
the same as the melting point of potmetal (zinc or zamac).
Before you know you will be melting the disc away...

But since it is already destroyed it might be fun to try, who knows what
the result will be :)

Btw, I have no good experiences with chrome paint! First it doesn't look
like chrome at all, more like silver if you ask me.
Second, the paint can be rubbed off easily and can't be protected by a
clear varnish as far as I know..

Ofcourse I will let you know (and the other IML-ers) how things will turn
out in the end :)

Thanks again,

Robert


Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 5:37 pm, schreef Kenyon Wills:
> Did you have a case of beer under your arm when you
> walked in the door?
>
> Was the machinist an older man - at or past retirement
> age?  This is a project for someone with some smarts, patience, and
> experience.
>
> Don't let that bad experience get you down.  Keep
> looking is my advice.  I'm personally very leery of pot-metal repair.  You
> might be ahead buying a drilling tool, grinding out the pits yourself, and
>  then learning how to melt brass into the divots and grind it down.
>
> Thats "all" they do.  Pain in the behind, if you ask
> me. - Especially for an item that need only pass casual scrutiny.
>
>
> One other suggestion:  Use a wheel to grind the
> surfaces flat/smooth.  Perhaps on a Dremel tool or something. Fill voids
> with body filler, and go to an automotive paint place.  They have paints
> that are "almost" indistinguishable from chrome.  You can use your
> sand-blasted piece for this one.
>
> http://img26.exs.cx/img26/8163/jaguar-xj0367.jpg
>
>
> So much of what determines success in life is who you
> have helping you.  Most places within 100 KM of you won't be worth talking
> to.  You have to search.
>
>
> Either way, best of luck in your mission - let us know
> how things turn out and how painful the solution was?
>
> --- Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>> You are right about that Kenyon, the problem however
>> is that machinists are often to busy (at least in my area) to have time to
>> reproduce this disc.
>>
>> I have tried several but they were all to busy to
>> even look at it.. And one shop ruined even my original disc when they
>> sandblasted it!
>>
>> That is why I ordered another one from Lowell, and I
>> am now trying to find me a decent shop that can handle potmetal so that
>> this one won't be destroyed!!
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 7:05 am, schreef Kenyon
>> Wills:
>>
>>> I think that the topic here is the disc that goes
>>> under the emblem in the center of a flightsweep
>> decklid.
>>>
>>> If so:  Why pay $500,000 to have that reflector
>>> repaired?
>>>
>>> Seems to me that you could have a talented
>>>
>> machinist
>>> reprduce a new one out of a steel blank and have
>> it turn out PERFECT and
>>> ready to be plated.
>>>
>>> I have not looked at mine lately, but those pot
>>>
>> metal
>>> folks charge a fortune, and there's no assurance
>> that your restored
>>> potmetal won't sprout more dimples in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Kenyon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Henry Hopkins <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are you talking about the chrome pieces that
>>>> surround a red plastic reflector on the tips of
>> the rear fins???  If so,
>>>> when you get the chrome piece fixed, George
>> Laurie
>>
>>>> Georgelaurie@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> makes reproduction reflectors that are superb.
>>>>
>>>> If you are not talking about those pieces, excuse
>>>>
>> me
>>>> for the intrusion.
>>>>
>>>> Henry Hopkins, 60 cvt.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Regis Bodnar" <arbie104@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:05 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair
>>>>
>> shop
>>>> in the New York area
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Paul's Chrome in Evans City, PA can repair it
>>>>>
>> and
>>>>>
>>>> re-plate it...they are
>>>>> not cheap, but guarantee everything for life and
>>>> use show quality
>>>>> chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Behalf Of Rob van der Es
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:03 PM
>>>>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair shop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> in the New York area
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi fellow imperialists!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to restore a trunklid reflector for
>>>>>
>> my
>>>>>
>>>> 1960 Imperial, my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> fried and fellow IML member Charles Rex (who
>> also
>>>> ownes a 1960 Imp) has
>>>>> obtained a reflector from Lowell but this one is
>>>> heavily pitted.
>>>>>
>>>>> This became visible after removing the old
>>>>>
>> chrome
>>>>>
>>>> plating.
>>>>> What I am looking for now is a shop that can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> repair the pinnholes and
>>>>> some craters in the potmetal. After the repair
>> it
>>>> can be copper plated
>>>>> and rechromed by any plating company, but the
>>>> problem is that not many
>>>>> know how to repair pot metal..
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know a good repair shop in the New
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> York area that can handle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> potmetal (zamac) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert van der Es
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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