RE: IML: Need some power window motors for my '68

[Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I replaced the brushes in several of mine about 15 years ago. As I recall, I started at NAPA and tried to match up brushes for random alternators. Then I went to a shop that rebuilt alternators. I ended up having success at an electronics supply store (do they have those anymore?). Depends on where you live, but I imagine that an auto repair shop or your Yellow Pages could lead to an alternator rebuilder, who could then lead you to a source for brushes.

The most fun part is reassembling the motor housing with all three brushes and springs in place, since it's the housing that holds the three springs in place! Work indoors and with a clean floor so you can find the springs after they fly across the room just when you think you have them in!

Or hit the junkyards and eBay in search of more youthful motors. The motors are common to all Mopars with power windows from the LBJ era well into the Reagan era (no political commentary implied nor expressed), although you'll need to reverse the wires on later ones because the polarity changed sometime in the 80s (no big challenge, and again, no political commentary intended).

You should secure the windows in the up position. A soft rubber wedge doorstop or two (one near either end of the glass and on either side) between the glass and window-sill opening usually works, if you're willing to trust your fingers to friction alone, which I'm not endorsing but have done. But as I recall there is no need to remove any other part of the window mechanism in a '67-68 car to access the bolts holding the motors in or to wrestle the motors out (you need to turn them and guide them out near the bottom). All the bolts have access holes in the inner door panel. Maybe the 2-door rear motors are different, though. Either way, please be careful and abundantly cautious, as the mechanism is a giant weighted scissors.

Good luck and safe springing!

Chris in LA

-----Original Message-----
>From: TomC <tcsibor@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2006 3:25 PM
>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: IML: Need some power window motors for my '68
>
>Hello and thank you for your note. I learned the hard way about the snapping
>scissors mechanism.  I have a nice scar across my wrist to match your
>fingers :-) After I did that, I read the information on the site about
>clamping them down..
>
>I have several problems with the whole window electrical system. I have a
>couple of seized motors, one disintegrated gear head and not sure of the
>others yet, 2 switches not working, and the window relay (the one behind the
>drivers kick plate) not energizing. When I short the relay, I have power
>going to the switches. I have to trace the circuit to see what energizes the
>relay as it is not getting a ground signal. The circuit breakers are working
>fine.
>
>I have taken 2 of my motors out and apart. Other than a good cleaning, they
>both require brushes. Were you able to find brushes for yours?
>
>I didn't realize kits were available....
>
>TomC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of aeyn
>Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:11 PM
>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: IML: Need some power window motors for my '68
>
>
>Tom,
>Are there ANY sounds coming from the doors AT ALL?  Humming,
>clicking, whirring?  If there is sound then the "nylon bearings"
>have turned to gravel.  I had to get a kit from Auto Zone for
>each of my four windows and rebuit them.  The refurb kit is VERY
>easy!!!  It comes with the inner and outter gears as well as the
>"nylon bearings" AND a packet of plenty of grease to do the job.
>I think that the kit was about $13-$19.  Now, they all work as
>good as new.  I also repaired the window switches at the same
>time.  ALSO, check the repair section on window replacement here.
> By the waym I did NOT have to remove the glass, nor the
>mechanism; however, good reliable clamps and a long stout screw
>driver were VERY helpful.   BE VERY CAREFUL!!  Removing the motor
>will RELEASE the spring wound scissor mechanism!!!  I have scars
>on the backs of the fingers on my right hand to prove it!  It
>bled like mad and I have a rare blood type!  (That happened with
>my 69 Imperial about 1973.)  Also, be careful of the routing of
>the wiring coming out of the motor.  I made the mistake of not
>tying it down and the motor wiring caught on a window stop and
>yanked one of the wires out of the motor.  I was able to solder
>the wire back in palce in side the motor.
>    The things we go through for our cars..
>
>Aeyn & Patrick
>
>
>
>--- TomC <tcsibor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> My '68 4 dr has 5 of the six window motors not working. I know
>> I can try to
>> disassemble and clean them, but if anyone has any working
>> spares they would
>> like to part with, please let me know. Both vent motors are
>> dead, as is the
>> passenger front and both rears.
>>
>> Thank you
>> TomC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
>> Nicholasadamo@xxxxxxx
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:07 PM
>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: IML: 1966 Imperial Crown 4-door for sale
>>
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, where is the car located??
>>
>> I'm in Virginia and if it is anywhere nearby I'd like to take a
>> look.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
>
>
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