RE: IML: Dick B's valves
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RE: IML: Dick B's valves
- From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:54:15 -0800
Wow, Pete;
Ouch! Yes, those are cooked all right. Mine were bad, but not THAT bad!
That looks a lot like the heads on my 413 out of the 64 New Yorker - with
165,000 on it.
That's the amazing thing about burned exhaust valves - the cars actually run
very well, and only by listening to the exhaust note are you even aware that
all is not right under there. There is a definite chuff-chuff from the
tailpipe with valves like this, but the 440 still pulls like a train, even
in that condition.
Dick Benjamin
By the way, now I think I know what happened to my Snap-on 3/8 flex handle
ratchet. You must have pocketed it when you were here! (If you don't have
one, get one - they are outrageously expensive, but what a tool for tight
places!)
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[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Engel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: IML: Dick B's valves
Dick,
I was able to sneak into your garage and snap a few pics of the Imperial
heads right after you pulled them. In this shot you can clearly see the
"hot" valves at each end of the head.
http://bos-engel.com/66newyorker/headsoff/2hotvalves.jpg
On closer inspection it's obvious that one of the valves is pretty badly
burned.
http://bos-engel.com/66newyorker/headsoff/burntvalve.jpg
;-)
Actually, I suspect that Dick's Imperial heads looked an awful lot like the
heads I recently pulled off my 66 New Yorker 440. I bought the car this
past Spring and it took some head scratching to get it running. It turned
out that it had 5 stuck intake valves and 5 bent pushrods. Ouch. Once I
remedied that little problem and got it running it sounded pretty darn good
but there was obviously still a problem. A very impressive backfire caused
the muffler to instantly change shape:
http://bos-engel.com/66newyorker/p7090005.jpg
Hmmm, I wonder if there's a bad exhaust valve? With 97k on the clock it
seemed prudent to just pull the heads and have them reworked. The machine
shop did a hard sell on hardened exhaust seats so I decided to do it (for
the first time ever). Installing the seats cost $200. The whole cylinder
head rework cost just over a grand, pretty much insuring that I will never
break even on this car. I got 8 new exhaust valves, 16 new guide inserts,
glass-beading, 3-angle valve job, and surface heads 0.010" I have yet to
find the time to put the 440 back together :-(
Pete in PA
Busy with a 6 month old baby
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