Re: IML: Unleaded gas effects

["Frederick Joslin" <fljoslin@xxxxxxxx>]

You would probably have to re-jet the carb to use this.

Also, I have heard that E-85  has a very low energy content. Read somewhere that  mileage drops to 50-75% of that which you get with gasoline so it is not such a bargain. 

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From: "Jan Harmonson"
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Subject: Re: IML: Unleaded gas effects
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:09:33 -0600


Hi

I have ben following the Unleaded story and wondered about E-85 in old cars.
I work in a Ford dealership and Ford has been making E-85 compatible cars
for some time and Bill Ford, in his ads about "innovation", says he wants
to have 250,000 ethanol ready cars on the road next year. In AutoWeek
magazine I saw where E-85 is available in 35 states, has 105 octane and is
less than $2.00 a gallon. Thoughts or comments?

Jan in Ojai, CA
1955 Imperial sedan
1952 Plymouth Suburban (arriving soon)
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Subject: RE: IML: Unleaded gas effects


> Ever since this first posted, I have been wondering about D^2's valves. I
was trying to remember if he had rebuilt the cylinder heads on his car to
take what he has proclaimed to do with that '68 Imperial. Maybe he will sign
in here and tell us.
>
> I am still thinking that I wouldn't bother rebuilding the heads unless
they showed the need for other work in the first place. I should admit that
some of my Imperials have gone way past 100,000 without a valve job.
>
> Paul W.
>
> In an email dated Thu, 17 11 2005 4:55:36 pm GMT, "Dick Benjamin"
writes:
>
> >Yes, it was only 16,000 miles, but remember our conditions out here are
> >really tough, and this car was driven almost totally on long (1600 to
2800
> >mile trips) and always in the hottest months, usually with 5 or 6 adults
and
> >a packed solid trunk. I know some of these trips went through temps
pushing
> >120, and the car asked for no special treatment at all, so I just kept
> >blasting down the Interstate. Our speed limits are posted at 70, but the
> >usual speed is 80-85 once you get out of town, and very few passed me!
> >
> > If you have been following the exploits of D^2, you know what I mean
when
> >I say I'd love to get a look at his valves!
> >
> >Dick Benjamin
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
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RandalPark@xxxxxxx
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:00 PM
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> >Subject: Re: IML: Unleaded gas effects
> >
> >Sorry that this happened to you Dick, but it is a good lesson for all of
us.
> >I am an advocate for "going the whole nine yards" when doing a valve job,
> >hardened valve seats and all, but only when it is already going to be
done.
> >So far, I have not recommended that the heads be reconditioned in this
way
> >until the apparent need for work arises, or the process was going to be
done
> >anyway. It is interesting that this car was only run 16,000 miles before
> >requiring more work. I may have to rethink my philosophy on this.
> >
> >Paul W.
> >
> >In an email dated Thu, 17 11 2005 2:30:54 am GMT, "Dick Benjamin"
> > writes:
> >
> >>I have been an advocate of ignoring the supposed bad consequences of
using
> >>unleaded gas in our older cars - as most of you probably know, those
cars
> >>built before 1974 were not designed to be run on unleaded gas.
> >
> >REST OF MESSAGE TRIMMED..................
> >
> >
> >
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