Re: IML: New Yorkers & such

["Mark Blitman" <itmanccg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

hi jay; enjoyed your comments on the M bodies; i too have an '87 5th Ave 
with 20,000 original miles along with a '74 imperial..what is the double bed 
at 55mph? is that like rocking from side to side when you go over uneven 
pavement?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay King" <j_king@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: IML: New Yorkers & such


Hi, list,

I've been following the discussion of New Yorkers/Fifth Avenues with 
interest, as I own two M-body Fifths ('85 and '87) and passed on a '77 New 
Yorker Brougham this summer because it was too close to the same color as my 
'73 LeBaron. If you're not interested in a historical discussion, move on to 
the next post.

If I recall correctly, the "New Yorker" nameplate had its genesis as an 
Imperial, a 1938 custom dubbed the "New York Special." The name kicked 
around, sometimes as a model, sometimes as a trim level, until being 
reunited with its Imperial roots for the '77 and '78 New Yorker Broughams. 
After those two years, Chrysler debuted a new "New Yorker," a slightly 
stretched M-body. The original Chrysler M-body was the unlamented Lebaron, 
the "little sedan with Imperial eagles." That New Yorker lasted until '82, 
when the name moved to a slightly squarer (more parts-bin compatibility with 
its Diplomat/Gran Fury siblings) New Yorker "Fifth Avenue Edition." "New 
Yorker" fell out of the name in '83, but all the M-bodies that are commonly 
called "Fifth Avenues" are identified as "Fifth Avenue Edition" (check the 
sail panel badge!) The M-body Fifth lasted until '89, and while they are 
certainly not Imperial, they are tough but luxurious little cars, and a sway 
bar from a police package Diplomat settles them down nicely and eliminates 
that "double bed at 55 mph" feeling. I am not qualified to comment on the 
FWD New Yorkers.

As you can no doubt tell, I happen to like the M-body Fifths (and Diplomats 
and Gran Furies.) Besides the two I own, I see probably half-a-dozen 
Fifths/Dips/GFs a day; not a bad in-service rate for a car that's been out 
of production for 17 years! I keep an eye on the classifieds with intentions 
of adding to my fleet. They are cheap, hard, and I can work on 'em. Again, 
the M-body Fifth Avenue was no Imperial, but it was the best Chrysler could 
build at a time when the company was very nearly in receivership.

There's a long ton of information on M-bodies at www.dippy.org should anyone 
wish to learn more. Bottom line: MOPAR or no car, and I'll take an 
extra-large, please.

Jay King
Meridian, Mississippi
<a href=mailto:j_king@xxxxxxxxx>j_king@xxxxxxxxx</a>

Honey Gold 1973 Imperial LeBaron 4DHT (Silent Bob)
Silver 1985 Fifth Avenue Sedan (Baby Flattop)
Nightwatch Blue 1987 Fifth Avenue (Blue Bomb)
Hunter Green 1993 Dodge Caravan (Dodge Van Dam)


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